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What a load of Bubbles
No change, only we are Bubbled. 34%  34%  [ 11 ]
Bubble for both sets of fans. 53%  53%  [ 17 ]
No Bubble for both sets of fans. 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:01 pm 
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Woburn wrote:
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I voted for just the game at Kingston.

It is the ground that is the problem at their place as anyone who has been there can testify. You'd be mad to think there wouldn't be isolated incidents of real trouble in that infrastructure with Dons fans arriving at different times. To suggest they must have a bubble when coming to a proper football stadium ( 8-) ) seems like a tit for tat view based on being 'locked in' on Saturday. There will no doubt be other ways of dealing with the 'lock in' situation via sensible, pragmatic planning (which are no doubt being looked at as we write/read).


To be fair, I'd say it's there minority of idiots that are the problem, not the ground.


This, that ground worked perfectly well for kingstonian and no doubt will for Chelsea’s ladies team.


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Would it be fair to assume the tide has turned somewhat, we have also held polls on social media simultaneously, and if I recall correctly last time we ran this poll it hinted at dropping the Bubble, this time around its leaning towards both clubs being bubbled.
The vote on here is close but over on social media its a resounding victory for both teams bubbled, I wonder if its the lock in that has changed a few minds, or something else.

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WellDon wrote:
Would it be fair to assume the tide has turned somewhat, we have also held polls on social media simultaneously, and if I recall correctly last time we ran this poll it hinted at dropping the Bubble, this time around its leaning towards both clubs being bubbled.
The vote on here is close but over on social media its a resounding victory for both teams bubbled, I wonder if its the lock in that has changed a few minds, or something else.


I think people are being pathetic. We don't need a bubble for Stadium MK, to demand they have one is down to spite.


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Don Direction wrote:
WellDon wrote:
Would it be fair to assume the tide has turned somewhat, we have also held polls on social media simultaneously, and if I recall correctly last time we ran this poll it hinted at dropping the Bubble, this time around its leaning towards both clubs being bubbled.
The vote on here is close but over on social media its a resounding victory for both teams bubbled, I wonder if its the lock in that has changed a few minds, or something else.


I think people are being pathetic. We don't need a bubble for Stadium MK, to demand they have one is down to spite.

Thanks for your valuable input :roll:

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For me a bubble is a matter of fact based on a risk assessment of the event based on the likely actions of both sets of fans and the ability of the venue infrastructure to cope with it. It shouldn’t be used as a ‘punishment’ as to which set of fans is more likely to cause trouble. Stadium MK, in my unprofessional view, would appear to be way big enough to house a few hundred AFCW fans without a bubble, surely. Let’s leave it to the health and safety professionals to decide rather than a bunch of amateurs voting with limited information. This isn’t a Brexit referendum ;)


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For me a bubble is a matter of fact based on a risk assessment of the event based on the likely actions of both sets of fans and the ability of the venue infrastructure to cope with it. It shouldn’t be used as a ‘punishment’ as to which set of fans is more likely to cause trouble. Stadium MK, in my unprofessional view, would appear to be way big enough to house a few hundred AFCW fans without a bubble, surely. Let’s leave it to the health and safety professionals to decide rather than a bunch of amateurs voting with limited information. This isn’t a Brexit referendum ;)


Yup.


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WellDon wrote:
Don Direction wrote:
WellDon wrote:
Would it be fair to assume the tide has turned somewhat, we have also held polls on social media simultaneously, and if I recall correctly last time we ran this poll it hinted at dropping the Bubble, this time around its leaning towards both clubs being bubbled.
The vote on here is close but over on social media its a resounding victory for both teams bubbled, I wonder if its the lock in that has changed a few minds, or something else.


I think people are being pathetic. We don't need a bubble for Stadium MK, to demand they have one is down to spite.

Thanks for your valuable input :roll:


You're more than welcome. If you put emotion to one side, you'll see I'm speaking sense. The problem with an eye for eye is everyone ends up blind.


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familymkdonsfan wrote:
For me a bubble is a matter of fact based on a risk assessment of the event based on the likely actions of both sets of fans and the ability of the venue infrastructure to cope with it. It shouldn’t be used as a ‘punishment’ as to which set of fans is more likely to cause trouble. Stadium MK, in my unprofessional view, would appear to be way big enough to house a few hundred AFCW fans without a bubble, surely. Let’s leave it to the health and safety professionals to decide rather than a bunch of amateurs voting with limited information. This isn’t a Brexit referendum ;)


Thing is family I don’t think any of us have any issues with them once in the ground itself, it’s outside the ground and the surrounding areas where the problems are. Regarding risk assessment, you would seriously doubt any kind of intelligent risk assessment was carried out with our fans being held at the top of stairs without anybody knowing what was going on, I’ve done lots of risk assessments in my previous jobs and last Saturdays was atrocious imo. There were so many things that could’ve happened it doesn’t bear thinking about. The risk of them misbehaving outside the stadium is very high hence the amount of police /stewards needed to control a couple of hundred people and even with that there has been incidents. What other game do you see that amount of security with an away following of 500?


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It won't be a problem when we are in the Championship and they are in the National League. We will still be drawn against them in both Cups though.

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Kempstondons6 wrote:
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For me a bubble is a matter of fact based on a risk assessment of the event based on the likely actions of both sets of fans and the ability of the venue infrastructure to cope with it. It shouldn’t be used as a ‘punishment’ as to which set of fans is more likely to cause trouble. Stadium MK, in my unprofessional view, would appear to be way big enough to house a few hundred AFCW fans without a bubble, surely. Let’s leave it to the health and safety professionals to decide rather than a bunch of amateurs voting with limited information. This isn’t a Brexit referendum ;)


Thing is family I don’t think any of us have any issues with them once in the ground itself, it’s outside the ground and the surrounding areas where the problems are. Regarding risk assessment, you would seriously doubt any kind of intelligent risk assessment was carried out with our fans being held at the top of stairs without anybody knowing what was going on, I’ve done lots of risk assessments in my previous jobs and last Saturdays was atrocious imo. There were so many things that could’ve happened it doesn’t bear thinking about. The risk of them misbehaving outside the stadium is very high hence the amount of police /stewards needed to control a couple of hundred people and even with that there has been incidents. What other game do you see that amount of security with an away following of 500?

How refreshing that someone can look at the bigger picture.

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