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MOTM v EXETER CITY
LEE NICHOLLS 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
GEORGE NICHOLLS 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
DEAN LEWINGTON 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
JOE WALSH 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
ALEX GILBEY 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
KIERAN AGARD 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
JORDAN MOORE-TAYLOR 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
ROBBIE SIMPSON 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
RHYS HEALEY 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
JORDAN HOUGHTON 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
CALLUM BRITTAIN 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
BAILY CARGILL 71%  71%  [ 32 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:23 pm 
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BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
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Cargill was excellent. The whole team did well, I thought, with a particular honourable mention for the redoubtable Mr Simpson, who made himself a thorough nuisance to them. I hope we extend his contract after Christmas if he keeps this up. Nothing like a big bruiser of a target man to spread doom and despondency amongst the opposition!

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Well, I think a prolific scorer, or a lightning quick, mazy dribbler, spreads a lot more doom and despondency amongst opponents; but I agree that Simpson is offering what you'd expect of him and, with our lack of a scorer so far, his work-rate and target man role is offering more than our other attacking options. And, yes, I think we should keep him for the season before, if we can go up, looking for a younger, better version next season.


We need both, I reckon. Always liked the target man/fox in the box combination.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:47 pm 
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One of the best kept secrets around..... :D

Seriously, it's horses for courses. I think it was Gary Neville who made the point on the telly that modern centre backs meet strike pairs so rarely these days as everybody seems to have a single striker up top, that they are uncomfortable when they do have to face them. Having a target man who is big and strong enough to mix it with central defenders so that they can't simply bully the smaller type of striker and have an easy afternoon as they often do is not a bad option to have.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:12 am 
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John N wrote:
BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
John N wrote:
Cargill was excellent. The whole team did well, I thought, with a particular honourable mention for the redoubtable Mr Simpson, who made himself a thorough nuisance to them. I hope we extend his contract after Christmas if he keeps this up. Nothing like a big bruiser of a target man to spread doom and despondency amongst the opposition!

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Well, I think a prolific scorer, or a lightning quick, mazy dribbler, spreads a lot more doom and despondency amongst opponents; but I agree that Simpson is offering what you'd expect of him and, with our lack of a scorer so far, his work-rate and target man role is offering more than our other attacking options. And, yes, I think we should keep him for the season before, if we can go up, looking for a younger, better version next season.


We need both, I reckon. Always liked the target man/fox in the box combination.


I wonder why you don’t see it very often.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:24 am 
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dons50 wrote:
John N wrote:
BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
John N wrote:
Cargill was excellent. The whole team did well, I thought, with a particular honourable mention for the redoubtable Mr Simpson, who made himself a thorough nuisance to them. I hope we extend his contract after Christmas if he keeps this up. Nothing like a big bruiser of a target man to spread doom and despondency amongst the opposition!

:lol:
Well, I think a prolific scorer, or a lightning quick, mazy dribbler, spreads a lot more doom and despondency amongst opponents; but I agree that Simpson is offering what you'd expect of him and, with our lack of a scorer so far, his work-rate and target man role is offering more than our other attacking options. And, yes, I think we should keep him for the season before, if we can go up, looking for a younger, better version next season.


We need both, I reckon. Always liked the target man/fox in the box combination.


I wonder why you don’t see it very often.


Because the fashion these days is for single striker formations. But what goes around comes around so in a few years' time somebody will doubtless win the Premiership with it.....oh wait, I forgot about Leicester....... :D


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:45 am 
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John N wrote:
dons50 wrote:
John N wrote:
BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
John N wrote:
Cargill was excellent. The whole team did well, I thought, with a particular honourable mention for the redoubtable Mr Simpson, who made himself a thorough nuisance to them. I hope we extend his contract after Christmas if he keeps this up. Nothing like a big bruiser of a target man to spread doom and despondency amongst the opposition!

:lol:
Well, I think a prolific scorer, or a lightning quick, mazy dribbler, spreads a lot more doom and despondency amongst opponents; but I agree that Simpson is offering what you'd expect of him and, with our lack of a scorer so far, his work-rate and target man role is offering more than our other attacking options. And, yes, I think we should keep him for the season before, if we can go up, looking for a younger, better version next season.


We need both, I reckon. Always liked the target man/fox in the box combination.


I wonder why you don’t see it very often.


Because the fashion these days is for single striker formations. But what goes around comes around so in a few years' time somebody will doubtless win the Premiership with it.....oh wait, I forgot about Leicester....... :D


I don’t think managers make their decisions based on fashion.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:02 am 
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An awful lot of managers do seem fixated on a particular style. So I wasn't surprised to hear a pundit seriously suggesting that the right thing to do was to make your players play in your style, get rid of any who won't or can't and replace them with players who will. So you get an insistence that the 'right' way is to play out from the back all the time and anybody who isn't happy doing this is got rid of, for example. This pundit was basically suggesting that there was no need for a Plan B as this would undermine the philosophy which the manager was going to instill.

Now that might work sometimes for top clubs with enormous budgets. But for lesser mortals it's not practical to do this and they have to manage with the players they've got and to find a blend which suits them, rather than the other way round.

We've had our own recent examples of managers who only ever played one way, no matter what and had no Plan B. Tisdale seems to be more pragmatic, thank the Lord!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:16 am 
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dons50 wrote:
I don’t think managers make their decisions based on fashion.

Perhaps fashion isn’t the right word because it implies a lack of thought and a sheepish adherence to a way of doing things. But there are definitely prevailing paradigms in all areas of professional endeavour: medicine, child care, business management etc. and football is no different.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:21 pm 
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keyser soze wrote:
dons50 wrote:
I don’t think managers make their decisions based on fashion.

Perhaps fashion isn’t the right word because it implies a lack of thought and a sheepish adherence to a way of doing things. But there are definitely prevailing paradigms in all areas of professional endeavour: medicine, child care, business management etc. and football is no different.


Perhaps evolution is a better word than paradigms.

Quality of pitches being a big part of the evolution.


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