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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:25 pm 
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It will be interesting to see if there is a change of policy regarding current Covid-passports for events. Most places/events that are requesting them go with proof of vaccination or a negative within 48 hours, with a decent whack of recent research suggesting that those who have been vaccinated for longer than 3 months are just as likely to spread it as those who are not vaccinated, if places really want these sort of regulations the current system doesn't really make sense.


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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:01 pm 
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BristolDon wrote:
Had my booster jab on Tuesday afternoon. Felt a little rough that evening, and my arm was sore yesterday morning, but last night was awful. Tbf I did also get the flu jab and pneumonia jab at the same time, so it could be one of the other ones (or a combination thereof), but I was shivering, hot and cold, drowsy, the works. A little better now, but that could be the paracetamol finally kicking in. Obviously I'm glad I got it, but just as a heads up, you might not want to make any plans that are particularly strenuous for the following day.

Good shout. Yes I've been feeling 'grotty' the last two days and I too had the flu jab - 12 days ago. No idea if they interact.
The Covid place said 'had any other vaccination in last 7 days?'. So answer was 'no'. But perhaps nonetheless it did affect me.
Feels like a really heavy cold. Dreadful throat and sneezing.
Hoping it will pass overnight ahead of termorrer.

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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:06 pm 
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Aliramone wrote:
BristolDon wrote:
Had my booster jab on Tuesday afternoon. Felt a little rough that evening, and my arm was sore yesterday morning, but last night was awful. Tbf I did also get the flu jab and pneumonia jab at the same time, so it could be one of the other ones (or a combination thereof), but I was shivering, hot and cold, drowsy, the works. A little better now, but that could be the paracetamol finally kicking in. Obviously I'm glad I got it, but just as a heads up, you might not want to make any plans that are particularly strenuous for the following day.

Good shout. Yes I've been feeling 'grotty' the last two days and I too had the flu jab - 12 days ago. No idea if they interact.
The Covid place said 'had any other vaccination in last 7 days?'. So answer was 'no'. But perhaps nonetheless it did affect me.
Feels like a really heavy cold. Dreadful throat and sneezing.
Hoping it will pass overnight ahead of termorrer.


Had my booster this morning, feeling a bit grotty now. Need to better tomorrow as I’ve got a ticket for Twickenham.


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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:09 pm 
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Felt absolutely fine after my booster.

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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:24 pm 
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Got booster next week, had the flu jab last week, that’s the one that always makes me feel grotty for a few days, this year was no exception :|

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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:22 pm 
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As I mentioned on the mask thread, we've been hit really badly recently with covid at work. I've just had a call to say that our office has had to close as along with one of the two partners testing positive, the other one did this morning, and one of the girls has as well.

I'm having my booster this forthcoming Thursday, and looking at what's happening at work I can't wait.

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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:10 pm 
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Felt absolutely fine after my booster.

Pleased to hear that. As I said, I f- didn't; though it may have been coincidental.
Far too few wearing masks today when I was shopping. Tw*ts.

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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
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I still don't understand the negativity towards people that choose not to wear masks from people who have been vaccinated.

If the vaccine works, great, everyone who has it has not wasted their time and it's beneficial. If the vaccine is a solution why is wearing a mask even Necessary? Genuine question.

One thing that is fact amongst all the speculation is an increase in your carbon dioxide levels as a result of wearing a mask weakens your immune system. There is no denying that, it has and always has been fact.

The number one cause of brain damage is your brain being starved of or a reduction of oxygen. How healthy can it really be to wear masks day in day out without respite for somethat are forced to wear them?

Don't want an argument. I'm just genuinely baffled by people that praise the vaccine, then demand people wear masks. Either the vaccine is effective or it's not?


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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
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THRILLHO wrote:
If the vaccine works, great, everyone who has it has not wasted their time and it's beneficial. If the vaccine is a solution why is wearing a mask even Necessary? Genuine question.


For me, I genuinely don't quite understand this latest mandate. There is evidence that masks reduce the spread of the virus if you have it, but it isn't overly effective at preventing you from getting Covid. For some people it is extra caution, so I guess you could argue that when driving you have a seat belt, a speed limit, alcohol limits and an air bag. If seat beats are safe, why are the other precautions necessary? It all adds up for better protection. Sadly the mask wearing seems to be more of 'let's show we are doing something' strategy. You can take it off on a train to eat and drink, you don't need it in a pub or go to work. Very much a Bojo decision to blame it on the people for not being compliant if cases/deaths go up dramatically because he will believe he has introduced a good strategy and it will also provide a level of comfort for some of the population who feel they are necessary. I think your phrase 'vaccine is the solution' is also a bit unfair. The vaccine has shown to be an effective measure to significantly reduce (not prevent) serious illness and death. The vaccine was never expected to end the pandemic, prevent all deaths or stop the spread, but to be an effective measure to reduce deaths and serious illness, particularly to those who are vulnerable. People are still dying, people are still getting ill, but the vaccine is working well. Based on what I've read of the current guidelines and literature those who are vulnerable or over 50 should get boosters, others maybe not. They are most definitely helping but it is unfair to suggest that it is purely the solution.



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One thing that is fact amongst all the speculation is an increase in your carbon dioxide levels as a result of wearing a mask weakens your immune system. There is no denying that, it has and always has been fact. The number one cause of brain damage is your brain being starved of or a reduction of oxygen. How healthy can it really be to wear masks day in day out without respite for somethat are forced to wear them?


This is actually quite a misleading claim. Excess carbon dioxide levels can have negative impacts on your immune systems and cause brain damage, however the quantity in which masks increase it is so nominal is hardly worth caring about. As per peer reviewed scientific articles posted 'BMC Infectous Diseases' or comments from Greg Schmidt at the University of Iowa Hospital, as well as pretty much every thing you find on google in published scientific literature, there can be a nominal increase in CO2 levels but way under any form of dangerous levels. Also, pretty much every bit of evidence highlights that the reduction in oxygen is so little it comfortably remains within the healthy expected oxygen levels. Doctors and nurses constantly make videos for those not wanting to read the literature to highlight this claim as many people keep saying otherwise. Your claim is not dissimilar to saying if you eat banana you die because they contain potassium, which can kill you. Whilst true, you need a bloody huge amount of it. Equally nobody is being asked to wear them without respite either. Shops and public transport, I'm guessing you are not in a shop much longer than half hour. I'm not sure the mandate will be effective or is worthwhile, but you are not going to get brain damage from a bit of cloth over your face for half an hour.


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 Post subject: Re: Covid Corner
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:19 am 
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We have to wear them at work, there's no option. we have to wear them. They've provided those cheap, blue, faux medical ones. When I knock on someone's door, I stand at least 2m away until they answer. I'll wear a mask when I initially go in, but if I'm in a room on my own I'll pull it down. So I'm guessing that I have one actually on my face for well under a couple of hours a day. Probably under an hour if I'm being honest. So I reckon I'll be okay on the Co2 front.

I'll wear one, and this will sound rich coming from me, but I'd much rather not. But I'm following what was government advice, which is now the law, on wearing one. I've said before, I'm not a member of SAGE, I'm an electrical engineer. In fact, I'm ignoring all official scientific advice, and rather I'm going by what uneducated folk on Twitter are saying.

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