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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on tonight
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:49 am 
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Dad_Of_A_Don wrote:
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It's easy to say it now, but we set up wrong. 5 at the back, 4 central midfielders and a youngster alone up top. It seemed very damag limitation from the offset. I thought in the first half Ipswich were the better side, not necessarily because they were good but because we offered absolutely nothing.

I have to say hats off to Tiadale at half time. He made two changes and switched it up. Many complaints from our fanbase of the years has been that we have no plan B, well Tisdale definitely gave that tonight. We didn't get the equaliser I'd argue we just about deserved but at least we gave it a good go. Ipswich looked worried that whole second half. A slight flick, deeper cross, a defelction or more confidence and boom we score. Unfortunately it wasn't to be.

After that first half I'd have taken a 1-0 defeat any day of the week, and many of us probably would have before the game. As I well done to Tis for making the changes as we clearly got it wrong in the first half and well done to the lads for really giving it a good go in the second half.

Just a quick note on Ipswich. Superb numbers today especially on a Tuesday but I was left a touch disappointed by them both on and off the field. The noise for that many people was underwhelming other than after the goal and full time whistle. They looked organised with some clearly talented players, as well as that bellend 21, but to me they are way off the quality and class of Posh. There was a Sheff Utd in 2011ish aura about them. The keeper started time wasting on 62 minutes and the bench celebrated the win like they had just won the league. I know they have had a tough year or so, but this was a game they should be winning in a league they should walk.


Pretty much sums it up for me CD

Given the half time changes and the second half transformation I don't feel too disheartened right now, even though we didn't manage to get the point

Yip, good summary.
Although I'm not sure about giving Tisdale too much credit for going to a Plan B, when Plan A was so obviously negative from the start.
It didn't need a poor first 45 minutes to see that, as CD puts it, "5 at the back, 4 central midfielders and a youngster alone up top" was incredibly negative for a home game.
We definitely needed another striker partnering Nombe from the start, and I'm sure Healey would have done so if he'd been fit. I know Agard started on Saturday, but that was presumably because the injury to Healey came so late for a change in formation? Does the fact that we chose to go with 4 central midfielders for a home game, rather than start with Agard or Bowery, suggest a lack of confidence in either of them at the moment? If so, it's another reason why it was a surprise that we didn't utilise the loan market after Mason's injury and Agard and Bowery's average starts to the season.
That said, I'm sure after the second half improvement, and against weaker opponents, we'll start with one of them partnering Nombe on Saturday.



Yes I agree with you Bertie, we called it prior to k.o. That the team selection/tactics were wrong. Also thought bringing agard on was a mistake, for me at that point it needed either gilbey with some creativity or Lewie to be able to put some good crosses in as Williams seems unable or doesn’t want to and is hell bent on going backwards whenever possible. One further note I think our home support numbers were very poor last night, 7000 ish, maybe champions league football on tv but still very poor imo.


7000? If the total was 10,000 there must have been at least 4k of them, and they may have even outnumbered us - I reckon about 2k of season ticket holders were counted but didn't actually go.

The noise was good though I thought - especially second half.


Yes I agree with you about the missing season ticket holders, definitely some around where I sit not there. It’s a shame because we aren’t going to play clubs like Ipswich every week in league 1.


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on tonight
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:24 am 
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I’m still not sure Kasumu is quite ready yet to play such a pivotal role for us. Lots of energy and good tidy play, but regularly wasteful in possession and gets muscled if they get tight to him. He’ll be a very good player for us, but once Gilbey’s match ready, he walks straight back in for me.


This. He reminds me a lot of Brendan/Dele/G. Baldock in the seasons before they got firmly established in the main starting XI; you can see he's got that spark but there's a lot of rough bits to smooth out. This isn't his season but the next one he could do big things if he learns and develops this year.


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on tonight
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Bacchvs wrote:
Camdenite wrote:
I’m still not sure Kasumu is quite ready yet to play such a pivotal role for us. Lots of energy and good tidy play, but regularly wasteful in possession and gets muscled if they get tight to him. He’ll be a very good player for us, but once Gilbey’s match ready, he walks straight back in for me.


This. He reminds me a lot of Brendan/Dele/G. Baldock in the seasons before they got firmly established in the main starting XI; you can see he's got that spark but there's a lot of rough bits to smooth out. This isn't his season but the next one he could do big things if he learns and develops this year.


Don’t forget here, he was excellent against lesser opposition (the scum) but Ipswich are a totally different side, make no mistake they will be there or thereabouts come the end of the season, I think most of our midfielders would’ve been caught out against Ipswich last night.


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on tonight
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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on tonight
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What a refreshing read.
Can't remember reading so many successively reasonable and well-balanced posts following a Dons defeat on here, in months/years.

Thank you to everyone who has originated & contributed to this thread.


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SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
What a refreshing read.
Can't remember reading so many successively reasonable and well-balanced posts following a Dons defeat on here, in months/years.

Thank you to everyone who has originated & contributed to this thread.
Just p*ss off.
We were dreadful.
Joke of a club.
He has to go. ;)
Thanks also for your contribution 3CR 'Sam'... ;)

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SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
Aliramone wrote:
SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
What a refreshing read.
Can't remember reading so many successively reasonable and well-balanced posts following a Dons defeat on here, in months/years.

Thank you to everyone who has originated & contributed to this thread.
Just p*ss off.
We were dreadful.
Joke of a club.
He has to go. ;)
Thanks also for your contribution 3CR 'Sam'... ;)

You can't deflect your own nefarious behaviour by pretending he's me. :lol: ;)

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Aliramone wrote:
SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
Aliramone wrote:
SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
What a refreshing read.
Can't remember reading so many successively reasonable and well-balanced posts following a Dons defeat on here, in months/years.

Thank you to everyone who has originated & contributed to this thread.
Just p*ss off.
We were dreadful.
Joke of a club.
He has to go. ;)
Thanks also for your contribution 3CR 'Sam'... ;)
You can't deflect your own nefarious behaviour by pretending he's me. :lol: ;)
Only the true messiah would deny his identity... ;)

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17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
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SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
Aliramone wrote:
SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
Aliramone wrote:
SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
What a refreshing read.
Can't remember reading so many successively reasonable and well-balanced posts following a Dons defeat on here, in months/years.

Thank you to everyone who has originated & contributed to this thread.
Just p*ss off.
We were dreadful.
Joke of a club.
He has to go. ;)
Thanks also for your contribution 3CR 'Sam'... ;)
You can't deflect your own nefarious behaviour by pretending he's me. :lol: ;)
Only the true messiah would deny his identity... ;)

I think 'Sam' is actually Dean Lewington. 8-)

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