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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:06 am 
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Alby wrote:
I really hope they pull through. I feel so sorry for their fans, the club have fucked it but that isn’t the fans’ fault.


Could not agree more . I can tell you from personal experience that losing the Club that you have supported all your life is unbelievably devastating.
Yes it is inconvenient for our Club. Yes it means our supporters losing money on travel etc. Money that a lot of people can ill afford.
But compared with the prospect of your Club going under all that is nothing more than chicken feed.
My heart goes out to the Gigg Lane faithful and like Alby I really hope they pull through.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:07 am 
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Seems strange that a club that has been unable to fulfil their PSF games should be allowed to carry on, whilst Bury who have played are not.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:14 am 
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Russybcool wrote:
Reading between the lines. it looks like they didn't even bother contacted the EFL after have three bites of the cherry. In my mind now kick them out of the fucking league and be done with it. They obviously have no idea how to run a business let alone a football club and we are the ones that suffer along with potentially the next game and the game after that. Yes, its sad that people lose their jobs, but people have been losing their jobs in different sectors for the past 10 years. One thing I do hope is this wakes up the footballing world and people realise they can't be sustainable as it is


Everything you have just said is why they shouldn’t kick them out of the league but give them as much opportunity to sort themselves out as possible. They are currently run by an incompetent owner and they should be given time to find a suitable owner that can get the football club back on their feet. Once the club has gone, thousands of supporters will be without THEIR team. It is not the fans that should be punished but the owner, he should be strung up for the way he has handled the club. To say, we are the ones who suffer is the most ridiculous statement of all. We miss one game, they potentially don’t have a club!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:16 am 
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TomMac&Ernie wrote:
Alby wrote:
I really hope they pull through. I feel so sorry for their fans, the club have fucked it but that isn’t the fans’ fault.


Could not agree more . I can tell you from personal experience that losing the Club that you have supported all your life is unbelievably devastating.
Yes it is inconvenient for our Club. Yes it means our supporters losing money on travel etc. Money that a lot of people can ill afford.
But compared with the prospect of your Club going under all that is nothing more than chicken feed.
My heart goes out to the Gigg Lane faithful and like Alby I really hope they pull through.


But what does this set by letting them drag it on? There have been many many clubs in the non-league and even some league clubs (Aldershot spring to mind, Darlington are another) that have folded dropped down and made a fist of getting back where they were. None of them were given the same sympathies for they owners being crazed lunatics. The fans are not to blame, but they were quite happy to have Beckford sign for ludicrous money £7k a week I heard and still to this day he is still a Bury player. It's madness, however it is not going to be the only time this happens.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:20 am 
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ChaChaDon wrote:
Russybcool wrote:
Reading between the lines. it looks like they didn't even bother contacted the EFL after have three bites of the cherry. In my mind now kick them out of the fucking league and be done with it. They obviously have no idea how to run a business let alone a football club and we are the ones that suffer along with potentially the next game and the game after that. Yes, its sad that people lose their jobs, but people have been losing their jobs in different sectors for the past 10 years. One thing I do hope is this wakes up the footballing world and people realise they can't be sustainable as it is


Everything you have just said is why they shouldn’t kick them out of the league but give them as much opportunity to sort themselves out as possible. They are currently run by an incompetent owner and they should be given time to find a suitable owner that can get the football club back on their feet. Once the club has gone, thousands of supporters will be without THEIR team. It is not the fans that should be punished but the owner, he should be strung up for the way he has handled the club. To say, we are the ones who suffer is the most ridiculous statement of all. We miss one game, they potentially don’t have a club!


if they are not going to help themselves after the EFL have extended the olive branch three times so it is the size of Pinochos nose after telling 50 lies then so be it. Rushen, Aldershot, Darlington and many others have fallen down and gone bust. Were you all very sad for them when they went the way of the Dodo? What if nobpody wants to buy Bury how long do you give them? A season of postponed fixtures. They have been in this mess since February that is SIX fucking months by next week. I am sure Mansfield who also had been in that position and have now got an amazing owner would love to be in League 1 right now.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:49 am 
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Russybcool wrote:
TomMac&Ernie wrote:
Alby wrote:
I really hope they pull through. I feel so sorry for their fans, the club have fucked it but that isn’t the fans’ fault.


Could not agree more . I can tell you from personal experience that losing the Club that you have supported all your life is unbelievably devastating.
Yes it is inconvenient for our Club. Yes it means our supporters losing money on travel etc. Money that a lot of people can ill afford.
But compared with the prospect of your Club going under all that is nothing more than chicken feed.
My heart goes out to the Gigg Lane faithful and like Alby I really hope they pull through.


But what does this set by letting them drag it on? There have been many many clubs in the non-league and even some league clubs (Aldershot spring to mind, Darlington are another) that have folded dropped down and made a fist of getting back where they were. None of them were given the same sympathies for they owners being crazed lunatics. The fans are not to blame, but they were quite happy to have Beckford sign for ludicrous money £7k a week I heard and still to this day he is still a Bury player. It's madness, however it is not going to be the only time this happens.


That's what I always think too about fans of clubs in this situation. They may not be in charge, but they were all celebrating last season about the success they achieved and they players they signed with money they didn't have, while fans of other clubs missed out because their clubs have done things properly. If I was a fan of Mansfield I would be well pissed off at losing out on promotion on the final day while a club that was spending money it couldn't afford got promoted.

I do however have sympathy for the staff - the ticket office staff, the catering staff, groundsmen, stewards, etc. The ordinary people who haven't been paid for the job they do, who may not have been able to buy food or pay the rent through no fault of their own. If the club restarts at the bottom, like Hereford have done recently, the fans can get their football club back, but those poor staff will never get the money that's owed to them, and that will have put a few in debt and struggling to make ends meet.

Makes you realise how lucky we are. Sure, Pete doesn't always get it right, and sadly there were some redundancies last year (better than people continuing to do their jobs then not being paid for it), but I'd rather have Pete than some of the crazy owners out there.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:56 am 
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My arse is well pissed by this. Very likely 3 points and a good start. Now fitness levels going to be behind over clubs.

Yes indeedy. :(

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I spoke to a Bury fan; the current owner isn't incompetent, he’s an asset stripper. The previous owner was incompetent. I think he wants the EFL to kick Bury out of the Football League, then he won’t have a loss-making business but retains all of the assets and it only cost him a pound.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:17 am 
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Don Direction wrote:
I spoke to a Bury fan; the current owner isn't incompetent, he’s an asset stripper. The previous owner was incompetent. I think he wants the EFL to kick Bury out of the Football League, then he won’t have a loss-making business but retains all of the assets and it only cost him a pound.

This. I was reading about him this morning. Well worth looking into.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:20 am 
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Don Direction wrote:
I spoke to a Bury fan; the current owner isn't incompetent, he’s an asset stripper. The previous owner was incompetent. I think he wants the EFL to kick Bury out of the Football League, then he won’t have a loss-making business but retains all of the assets and it only cost him a pound.


Apart from the players what have they got?

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