THE CONCRETE ROUNDABOUT (TCR)

If Corbyn won he would be PM and leader of the Labour party comrade.

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Yes but we can't speculate on what their position on lockdowns would have been by say the summer of 2020 because it never happened?

As before, this thread is about Corbyn / Labour Government, their stance over the war in Ukraine, dealings with Russia and what that have meant to the UK.

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I though it was going to be an article of the Tories accusing Corbyn of finding money on trees and then in the Covid period doing the same as he proposed. Ah well, Ukraine.

Corbyn has always taken a principle stance against war and I admire it (he was also right to highlight the Iraq war was based on Blair's lies), but I have my doubts a Labour Government would have taken his view as it was more collective. For example, he was more for Brexit, but supported the remain stance as it was the collective view.

In my opinion NATO has been more expansive than aggressive. US even asked Russia's OK before it invaded Libya. A shame Putin didn't do the same for Ukraine and I support Ukraine's right of self determination and self defence. Saying that I fear that the conflict will carry on in stalemate, with each side continue bombing and laying waste to parts of Ukraine. I would support negotiations between Ukraine and Russia and like Jeremy would want peace over bloodshed, but it's entirely Ukraine's decision.

On a wider level I would support actions that stop us being held hostage to these tyrants and stop their finances. Unfortunately the link between the City of London and money laundering is strong.

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The West did nothing over the annexing of the Crimean and legged it out of Afghanistan with a Taliban boot narrowly trailing behind. No wonder Putin thought he could do what he liked. Surprised he didn't march into other countries. That's what weakness gets you and things would've been far worse under a Corbyn / Labour Government.

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Both the Russians and the US / UK got a bloody nose in Afghanistan, although region powers of Iran and Pakistan had something to do about that. I can't see anyone could have done anything about the Crimea, infamously linked to the charge of the Light Brigade.

Labour would followed Germany or France more than the US. Who knows how it would have ended, like we don't know how it will end now. One thing we do know is that a Tory government didn't stop Putin invading and a Trump win would have given Putin a green light to invade and zero help to Ukraine.

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For those that like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like.

Let's speculate. What will Rishi Sunak / Liz Truss / Penny Mordaunt do when China invades Taiwan?

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I don't need your ill-informed, half-baked, idiotic opinions. I have plenty of those myself.

You make an interesting point Bertie. Four Burmese cats is sure to intimidate Xi Jinping. And they produce less shit than Truss.

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I don't need your ill-informed, half-baked, idiotic opinions. I have plenty of those myself.

No doubt Boris has met many, along with most Western leaders who've some very dodgy connections. All linked to money, energy and donations. However outwardly when it comes to response and support the UK, under a Tory Government, have been one of the lions of the West. Corbyn, his inner circle and Labour share much common ground with Russia and if things had turned out differently, the UK Labour Government would've given a passive response. Keep Labour out of power, or the UK hating red devils will rise again.

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