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England's World Cup chances

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The Barclays Premier League. It's good, but nowhere near as good as is always reported.

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Can't argue with The Beatles. Massive pile of shit.

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When you make your music, do you think about the man in the street? No, I've met the man in the street. He's a Ladybit.

Really? Which is better?

Their musical ability might do but their legacy doesn't

I don't get them, but it's all in the context of when they emerged. Writing and playing on your own stuff was unheard of.

I've Got A Feeling is the greatest rock vocal of all time. Still shit though.

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When you make your music, do you think about the man in the street? No, I've met the man in the street. He's a Ladybit.

Saying the Beatles are over rated do any mean they aren’t good. Just means they’re over rated. In my opinion.

At the time, great I’m sure. But looking back most of it sounds like generic 60s pop fodder.
Rather listen to Stones, Zepplin, The Who, and Pink Floyd.

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I would argue that whilst Justin Bieber? The Twilight movies? X factor? Are hugely popular they aren't actually rated highly (dare I say even by people who enjoy them) therefore they can't be overrated.

The most over rated thing I can think of is laying on a beach on a hot sunny day, absolutely bores the shit out of me yet people spend all year slogging their guts out to do it for two weeks.

I am not in the least interested in so called Pop, Never have been. Nor am I impressed by all these crap 'cult' rubbish.

I am merely objecting to the mis-application of the term overrated.

In terms of musical ability, the Beatles were individually average and collectively pretty good. In terms of songwriting ability I’ve still never heard a back catalogue to compare to it and that would be true whenever they were working. When you look at the era they were working in, what they did was astounding. Add in the way they approached the studio and invented the rule book and you’ve got something that I’d definitely argue could not be described as overrated.

Go listen to “If I Fell”. Lyrically it’s junk. Musically it’s insanely good - 50 years on, nothing about that song still makes sense except for that it works, when it genuinely shouldn’t. And that’s before they started getting properly creative. Listen to the first four bars (possibly eight, depending on how you count). It’s just crazy that a band that young could write that.

Anyway, all opinions and that, but on this one, you are of course, fundamentally wrong if you disagree with me.