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 Post subject: Zero 2 Hero
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:22 am 
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Many congratulations to BTA on his move to the Championship for West Brom. I think we let him go for nothing, but he probably needed time we couldn’t afford to develop his game, and as Runyak points out on another thread a possible kick up the arse he needed.
I just wondered if there were anymore we had released on Free’s only to go on to bigger and better things.
Thinking out loud here....Jordan Spence.....Lee Nicholls, I'm not sure if a fee was involved, which is the criteria for this thread, anyone ?

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 Post subject: Re: Zero 2 Hero
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:47 am 
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I know we aren't necessarily the worst team in the world for this, but I would rather we gave players one year too many than one year not enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Zero 2 Hero
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:07 am 
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There's loads of players who were let go by clubs at a young age and go on to be successful. Andy Cole probably being the best known example.
In my experience, as mentioned with BTA, being released is the best thing to ever happen to them. It makes them realise that they might not actually be the best player in the world and have to graft to get to where they want to/believe they should be.
Others just aren't cut out for 'the big leagues' and go the other way.

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 Post subject: Re: Zero 2 Hero
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:50 pm 
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I think the overiding issue for us is the lack of finances to carry additional "non-playing" squad members. We have to make a deciosn after their first contract (from age 17>19 usually) as to whether they're 1st Team Ready. The vast majority aren't. And that's where players like BT-A, Tshimanga, Asonganyi and evengoing back to Rasulo, Tilney, Jackson etc., all fall down. Unless they can be a regular part of the matchday squad then we simply have to release them rather than commiting to a second contract.

We don't have the funds to carry players who "might be good in a year or two". Other clubs do, and can take on "projects", but we simply have nowhere for them to go and nothing to pay them with. We are now back to having no under 23's, and we just never seem to get them playing at anything higher then Step 2 (Nat' League North or South) if we loan them out. Maybe that says more about their quality, but if a Prem team is loaning 18yr olds to our level, then I'd say it's not unreasonable to also expect our 19/20 yr olds to playing down two levels rather than three or four.

There seems to be a concerted effort each year to graduate one or two of that years crop in to pro-deals but I do sometimes get the feeling that's about ensuring that parents/agents of prospective youngsters see that carrot being waved there. To me, it also means that we may prioritise youngsters who have a chance of being physically able to compete in adult football from 18 rather than the most technically gifted lad who may be a year or two behind physically.


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