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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:39 pm 
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Ormeau wrote:
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On a non keeper related post, not been impressed with Lofthouse yet. Has the same phobia of shooting that norman has. Found himself about 3 yards from goal, nice side foot into the corner but chose to pass it into a backed box.


He had the odd decent interception and lay off but overall, so far, I guess it's a meh (whatever that means).


I’d like to see Tomlinson back on the right and Harvie pushed back to LWB with Lewie at LCB.


That sounds like at the very least worth trying out. Harvie alone is more useful going forward than he is being stuck at the back.


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Ormeau wrote:
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On a non keeper related post, not been impressed with Lofthouse yet. Has the same phobia of shooting that norman has. Found himself about 3 yards from goal, nice side foot into the corner but chose to pass it into a backed box.


He had the odd decent interception and lay off but overall, so far, I guess it's a meh (whatever that means).


I’d like to see Tomlinson back on the right and Harvie pushed back to LWB with Lewie at LCB.


Agree. Havie and Tomlinson are so far ahead of Norman and Lofthouse. Need them both playing at WB.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:06 pm 
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Fucking livid with the keeper. It was his fault we were 1-1 and he’s fucking standing on the ball as if we’re 5-0 up. Painfully slow.

He was standing on the ball similar to Emi Martinez at Villa. Brighton also use that tactic. Try to draw out strikers.

Dean should have scored, Lofthouse should shoot or pass faster, Harrison touch awful. Lewingtons pass to Bate. Our tactics which killed any conposure we have in final third. So many things wrong, but easy to blame the ball playing keeper - who yes made a mistake for their first goal. We should be livid with the attackers for not killing the game, not the keeper for putting his studs on the ball


I get that, but it wasn’t drawing them out at 1-1 as they were happy to sit. We were chasing the game and he was just massively slowing it down and the reason why the fans were getting on his back.

His passing was decent but not without error. Some of his long passing was shocking and he kicked it right at their player. If we signed him for his passing, then I’m disappointed with what I saw. Tomlinson was also getting pretty frustrated.

All well and good doing a few passes that most keepers can’t do, but if you’re overall game is weak you’re in trouble. In this league, he’s going to get absolutely abused at set pieces.

Hoping he settles and improves over the next few games.


Yeah I can understand that. It is quite interesting because I watch pretty much every Aston Villa game as long as it doesn't clash with Dons, but I have to same I'm very impressed that Marschall has picked up what Villa want from him and how Emi Martinez plays so quickly. Does that help us? I'm not so sure right now. When Emery took over the Villa fans would boo and groan for similar reasons, they now see the benefit. If Emi waits for the press one of the central midfielders typically has more space and can drive forward kick starting the attack - Villa have been superb with that through McGinn and Luiz. Bigger gaps open leaving a better chance to exploit their midfielder and create attacking opportunities. I'm guessing that is what he was hoping for. Maybe it wasn't the game, maybe our midfielders movements aren't in sync with Marshalls ideas. Typically though if the press doesn't happen and no forward passes open up you'll just see sideways passes between keeper and centre backs - so the game is just as slow as him standing on it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:12 pm 
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They usually bring a pitiful following. Let’s home Morecambe this time.


193. Embarrassing, tinpot club.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:36 pm 
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We lost but I thought it was a decent game overall.

First half we were excellent. We looked very comfortable in defence, Robson and Payne were very effective in midfield and Gilbey and Dean both looked dangerous. Kemp was quiet but looked tidy when he got it.
We should have been 2 or 3 up at half time.
Second half we just didn’t really get going in the same way as we did in the first half. Our final ball was poor , as was our general decision making in the last third of the park.

We were unlucky to lose . One of those days sadly


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:40 pm 
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Zen wrote:
We lost but I thought it was a decent game overall.

First half we were excellent. We looked very comfortable in defence, Robson and Payne were very effective in midfield and Gilbey and Dean both looked dangerous. Kemp was quiet but looked tidy when he got it.
We should have been 2 or 3 up at half time.
Second half we just didn’t really get going in the same way as we did in the first half. Our final ball was poor , as was our general decision making in the last third of the park.

We were unlucky to lose . One of those days sadly

I want to post "This" to this post. I really want to. But I can't because we weren't unlucky. We weren't sharp enough up top first half and we were a heap of stinking horseshit second half.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:47 pm 
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keyser soze wrote:
Zen wrote:
We lost but I thought it was a decent game overall.

First half we were excellent. We looked very comfortable in defence, Robson and Payne were very effective in midfield and Gilbey and Dean both looked dangerous. Kemp was quiet but looked tidy when he got it.
We should have been 2 or 3 up at half time.
Second half we just didn’t really get going in the same way as we did in the first half. Our final ball was poor , as was our general decision making in the last third of the park.

We were unlucky to lose . One of those days sadly

I want to post "This" to this post. I really want to. But I can't because we weren't unlucky. We weren't sharp enough up top first half and we were a heap of stinking horseshit second half.

Amen Bro.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:53 pm 
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cornerdon26 wrote:
East Wing Don wrote:
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East Wing Don wrote:
Fucking livid with the keeper. It was his fault we were 1-1 and he’s fucking standing on the ball as if we’re 5-0 up. Painfully slow.

He was standing on the ball similar to Emi Martinez at Villa. Brighton also use that tactic. Try to draw out strikers.

Dean should have scored, Lofthouse should shoot or pass faster, Harrison touch awful. Lewingtons pass to Bate. Our tactics which killed any conposure we have in final third. So many things wrong, but easy to blame the ball playing keeper - who yes made a mistake for their first goal. We should be livid with the attackers for not killing the game, not the keeper for putting his studs on the ball


I get that, but it wasn’t drawing them out at 1-1 as they were happy to sit. We were chasing the game and he was just massively slowing it down and the reason why the fans were getting on his back.

His passing was decent but not without error. Some of his long passing was shocking and he kicked it right at their player. If we signed him for his passing, then I’m disappointed with what I saw. Tomlinson was also getting pretty frustrated.

All well and good doing a few passes that most keepers can’t do, but if you’re overall game is weak you’re in trouble. In this league, he’s going to get absolutely abused at set pieces.

Hoping he settles and improves over the next few games.


Yeah I can understand that. It is quite interesting because I watch pretty much every Aston Villa game as long as it doesn't clash with Dons, but I have to same I'm very impressed that Marschall has picked up what Villa want from him and how Emi Martinez plays so quickly. Does that help us? I'm not so sure right now. When Emery took over the Villa fans would boo and groan for similar reasons, they now see the benefit. If Emi waits for the press one of the central midfielders typically has more space and can drive forward kick starting the attack - Villa have been superb with that through McGinn and Luiz. Bigger gaps open leaving a better chance to exploit their midfielder and create attacking opportunities. I'm guessing that is what he was hoping for. Maybe it wasn't the game, maybe our midfielders movements aren't in sync with Marshalls ideas. Typically though if the press doesn't happen and no forward passes open up you'll just see sideways passes between keeper and centre backs - so the game is just as slow as him standing on it.


Good post. There were a few times that the delayed pass worked really well in the first half. As soon as we scored, Morecambe seemed to cut most passes off to Payne/Robson and it was much harder to pass through the centre.
But it will work against most teams who aren't packing 10 players in their own half. We saw this with Russ Martin and Williamson has the exact same ideas.

We just need to enjoy the ride. We'll have great games with no mistakes, OK with some mistakes and shit games with lots of mistakes but it's still better than lumping it forward to Eisa like we had with Alexander.


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We just need to enjoy the ride.
We'll have great games with no mistakes, OK with some mistakes and shit games with lots of mistakes but it's still better than lumping it forward to Eisa like we had with Alexander.


I didn't enjoy (that bit of) the ride at all. Not one F- bit. Champagne last week and possibly in the future is not compensation for tepid, flat Lambrusco today/yesterday.

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