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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:37 pm 
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Here is the Expected Goals timeline graphic for the Oxford v MK Dons League 1 game on 1 Jan 2018, by Ben Mayhew @ Experimental 361

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Explanation:
There are two numbers next to each club’s name.
The first number is how many goals each club actually scored, if any.
The second number (in brackets) is the number of goals that an average team would have expected to score from their shots - the "Expected Goals" from all the chances created by that team added together over the course of the match.
The lines on the graphic track how each team's Expected Goals tally, cumulatively increased over the first & second halves of the match.
Every jump upwards in a line, is a shot by that club, with bigger jumps upwards corresponding to more promising chances.
Blobs appear on the Expected Goals line, wherever goals were actually scored by that club during the game, if any.

The Expected Goals timeline graphics can provide a better sense of how each game played out, who deserved to win, who was lucky/unlucky etc. than edited highlights and/or the basic shots, shots on target, and possession stats do.

Full explanations & the other timeline graphics for this round of League 1 fixtures can be found at Experimental 361:
https://experimental361.com/2018/01/02/ ... -jan-2018/

An explanation of Expected Goals (xG) is also available from BBC Sport - well worth a read if you are still unclear on Expected Goals, what they are, and what they can signify:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40699431

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:53 pm 
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Don't need all these stats, the team that deserved to win are the team who scored the most goals


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:32 pm 
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But did the team who scored the most goals, deserve to win, or were they lucky winners? ;)

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:05 pm 
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SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
But did the team who scored the most goals, deserve to win, or were they lucky winners? ;)

They deserved to win, luck plays a part in every match. It's what you do with the luck that counts


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:02 pm 
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Bill wrote:
SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
But did the team who scored the most goals, deserve to win, or were they lucky winners? ;)

They deserved to win, luck plays a part in every match. It's what you do with the luck that counts

But did they create their own luck, or were they gifted it? ;)

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:41 pm 
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BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
Just don't get them at all.

BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
You were right.
They really are fascinating.

Ah, so you finally read all the easy-to-comprehend explanations, and understand the Expected Goals timelines now? ;)
Good.
They're not going away... :D

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:25 pm 
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BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
Just don't get them at all.

BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
You were right.
They really are fascinating.

Ah, so you finally read all the easy-to-comprehend explanations, and understand the Expected Goals timelines now? ;)
Good.

:lol:

SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
They're not going away... :D

And God knows, we Dons fans need something after the last 3 years...

Indeed.
And some fact-based reality to refer to, rather than relying on the usual "ill-thought out, emotion-fuelled bilge" (Copyright Keyser) and selective/goldfish/rose-tinted memory... ;)

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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