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 Post subject: Re: 30 years on
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:00 pm 
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Don Direction wrote:
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We didn't win it 30 years ago, we were founded 2004. The limited company was incorporated in 2003 with the trade and assets transferred from the old company. You can't transfer history of course. Much of the debt would have been written off too of course.

Claiming we won the FA Cup 30 years ago or that we are the real Dons or any of that bollocks is what gives us a bad name.

Time to move on.

You are confusing the Owners with the Football club, owners change all the time, think Man City with the Shieks or Man United with the Warners or even Crystal Palace. The club stayed the same just the owners changed. The only difference between MK Dons and the three examples is that none of them applied for a name change.


The legal entity changed, incorporated 2003.


Exactly the club belonged to the old legal entity and then it belonged to the new legal entity. The fundemental question is if the new Legal Entity created the new club "Milton Keynes Dons", why did the old Legal Entity apply to the Football League to change the name of Wimbledon FC to Milton Keynes Dons. AND as the Football League gave permission for the name change, they would not have allowed a new team to be called the same name as an existing team.


why did the old Legal Entity apply to the Football League to change the name of Wimbledon FC to Milton Keynes Dons

- because it wanted to start a new club
----- Inter MK explained that this name was intended to "represent the past, present and future and place the club at the heart of its new community" as well as to retain a connection with the club's former identity.
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AND as the Football League gave permission for the name change, they would not have allowed a new team to be called the same name as an existing team


- I don't follow you here. The new team does have a different name to the existing team.
---- You cant change the name of a new thing, you can only give it a name, thus as the name was CHANGED to MK Dons
it is the original club but with its name changed.


The thing is Wimbledon were a shit dirty team with no fans who fluked a cup win. We wiped the slate clean and started a new club retaining only the league position, a ginger man and a goalkeeping coach.
---- Not true on 2 counts 1) Wimbledon won because Liverpool lost their bottle, nothing fluky about the goal 2) Most of the first squad who played for MK Dons also played the last game for Wimbledon FC


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 Post subject: Re: 30 years on
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:01 pm 
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Strangely I clearly remember that particular cup final. I watched it on a big cabinet TV in the lounge of a hotel in Waddacombe Bay.

It must have been raining that day.


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 Post subject: Re: 30 years on
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:00 pm 
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Me too and fully agree with Bill. The name change does not constittue a new club.


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 Post subject: Re: 30 years on
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:14 pm 
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wafflingstreet wrote:
Me too and fully agree with Bill. The name change does not constittue a new club.

E.g. Woolwich Arse and Arse.

wikipedia wrote:
Royal Arsenal renamed themselves for a second time upon becoming a limited liability company in 1893. They registered their new name, Woolwich Arsenal, with The Football League when the club ascended later that year. Woolwich Arsenal was the first southern member of The Football League, starting out in the Second Division and winning promotion to the First Division in 1904. Falling attendances, due to financial difficulties among the munitions workers and the arrival of more accessible football clubs elsewhere in the city, led the club close to bankruptcy by 1910. Businessmen Henry Norris and William Hall became involved in the club, and sought to move them elsewhere.

In 1913, soon after relegation back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal moved to the new Arsenal Stadium in Highbury, North London. This saw their third change of name: the following year, they reduced Woolwich Arsenal to simply The Arsenal.

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 Post subject: Re: 30 years on
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:42 am 
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Plus I don't think the Football League would have sanctioned a new club starting the Football League. Football pyramid and all that.

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