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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:12 am 
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Yet another reason AFC aren't the continuation of Wimbledon, everyone hated us when we were in London and everyone hates us now we are in Milton Keynes, that's real continuation


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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:01 am 
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Alby wrote:
Fuck sake this again? Why are people so fucking bothered grow up.


Lame, Alby.

AFC got fined by the FA for disrespecting us...so the BBC should be too :D

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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:02 am 
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BristolDon wrote:
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On MOTD last night, both Gabby Logan (especially) and Dion Dublin both put MK Dons down, saying Coventry were hoping for a bigger, more glamorous, even a Prem team. Although no doubt that is true to a degree, funny how they did not "mock" other L1 and Championship teams. Logan especially...kind of rolled her eyes when she said our team name...

With the whole dropping "AFC" thing, the BBC is biased against us. Not just them though...Adrian Durham on talkSport also drops "AFC" and ALWAYS calls us just "Milton Keynes"

Gggrrr !


If you're upset by Adrian Durham, then he's doing his job. He's deliberately provocative as it gets reactions and generates interest in him. If you don't like him, then stop listening, simple.

And as for the BBC Bias, how many threads do we have on this again?


You do not have to be provocative to be a good and respected journalist or presenter ! I am a HUGE fan of Alan Brazil and he does not set out to be provocative.

Truth is, Durham is like that as he is a Posh fan. Pure and simple.

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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:04 am 
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What you have to remember is there are pundits who work for the BBC who happily propagate the myth that AFCW are some-sort of 'phoenix/saviour' club to all that's wrong with modern football. There's no research, no attempt to be impartial because that's the most sensationalist view that's possible. And that's why it's stuck.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:23 am 
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I can see AFC's defence. The BBC and the Guardian back us, so we must be allowed to get away with anything we want to do. No doubt they will also call Adrian Durham as am expert witness.

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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:23 pm 
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I haven't seen convincing evidence that there is an inherent media bias against MK Dons. It smacks of paranoia to me (and in the case of Galverion, who has previously stated his contempt for the BBC, confirmation bias).

That said, there is a bias in favour of the romantic, phoenix-club narrative. Journalists will always favour a good story. AFC are, in the eyes of most football fans, a good story. The David to our Goliath, the rags-to-riches to our trust fund, etc. We've heard it all before. Football journalists are all football fans, and have therefore absorbed some of these tropes, sometimes at the expense of absolute factual accuracy.

So I think there is a bias at play. Not against MK Dons, but in favour of the fluffy story.

Also, as a salient point, a journalist can hold a strong personal opinion - for example that MK Dons are everything that is wrong with football and AFC are the saviours - without that becoming a bias. IIRC Martin Samuel doesn't like us, but a few years ago he wrote a good article about the work Dan Micciche was doing with the academy.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:09 pm 
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Toby Carvery wrote:
I haven't seen convincing evidence that there is an inherent media bias against MK Dons. It smacks of paranoia to me (and in the case of Galverion, who has previously stated his contempt for the BBC, confirmation bias).

That said, there is a bias in favour of the romantic, phoenix-club narrative. Journalists will always favour a good story. AFC are, in the eyes of most football fans, a good story. The David to our Goliath, the rags-to-riches to our trust fund, etc. We've heard it all before. Football journalists are all football fans, and have therefore absorbed some of these tropes, sometimes at the expense of absolute factual accuracy.

So I think there is a bias at play. Not against MK Dons, but in favour of the fluffy story.

Also, as a salient point, a journalist can hold a strong personal opinion - for example that MK Dons are everything that is wrong with football and AFC are the saviours - without that becoming a bias. IIRC Martin Samuel doesn't like us, but a few years ago he wrote a good article about the work Dan Micciche was doing with the academy.

I don't think it can be described as "paranoia" when you yourself admit that there is a bias in favour of AFC and against us. After that it becomes a matter of opinion as to the extent of the bias. But "paranoia" would only apply if we were imagining that there was any bias at all.
As regards the reason for the bias, then yes, most haters weren't fans of Wimbledon FC so the reason why people are pro AFC and anti MK is all based on the romantic bullshit you mention. That doesn't make it any less annoying.
But that was the old Bertie (not Bassett).
The new Bertie says c'est la vie. 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:17 pm 
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Dion Dublin? Who gives a shit what a Homes Under the Hammer presenter thinks about football?


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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:52 am 
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You just have to see how BBC reported and showed the Coventry goal, try it's best not to get any flares and show no fans on the pitch. They soon show MK Dons when something they do or is highlighted as wrong.

Also BBC are bad at giving any team places or tables in the league, until MK Dons manage to be in relegation, then they feature that big time.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC bias
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:04 am 
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M34 wrote:
You just have to see how BBC reported and showed the Coventry goal, try it's best not to get any flares and show no fans on the pitch. They soon show MK Dons when something they do or is highlighted as wrong.

Also BBC are bad at giving any team places or tables in the league, until MK Dons manage to be in relegation, then they feature that big time.

Really!

Well, the report I watched on Auntie Beeb clearly showed both the flare (with Nichols clearly being referenced as having to make a clearance he'd rather not have done) and the pitch invasion. With footage of stewards manhandling pitch Invaders.

By all means be critical of the Beeb when it's factually incorrect, but there's little point in inventing a false narrative to suit your agenda. That's the sort of thing KFC would do. I genuinely thought we were above such nonsense.

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