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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:41 pm 
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He’s shit


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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
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Spreadsheets are wonderful things but they can't tell you how good a player is. It takes the eyes of good scout to find that. A spreadsheet is only a database and is only as good as what is put in.

Does Sweeting actually do any proper scouting ?


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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
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It's Bobby's old spreadsheet he uses.


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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
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donmentor wrote:
Spreadsheets are wonderful things but they can't tell you how good a player is. It takes the eyes of good scout to find that. A spreadsheet is only a database and is only as good as what is put in.

Does Sweeting actually do any proper scouting ?

Do you seriously think he just looks at a spreadsheet? :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
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donmentor wrote:
Spreadsheets are wonderful things but they can't tell you how good a player is. It takes the eyes of good scout to find that. A spreadsheet is only a database and is only as good as what is put in.

Does Sweeting actually do any proper scouting ?

This is the most idiotic take I’ve seen. He might not go to actual games himself as he’s too busy but do you really think we don’t have people actually in stands watching the players we’re interested in?

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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:59 am 
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DippyDon wrote:
donmentor wrote:
Spreadsheets are wonderful things but they can't tell you how good a player is. It takes the eyes of good scout to find that. A spreadsheet is only a database and is only as good as what is put in.

Does Sweeting actually do any proper scouting ?

This is the most idiotic take I’ve seen. He might not go to actual games himself as he’s too busy but do you really think we don’t have people actually in stands watching the players we’re interested in?


I can believe anything after last year's recruits.


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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
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RedOnRed wrote:
DippyDon wrote:
donmentor wrote:
Spreadsheets are wonderful things but they can't tell you how good a player is. It takes the eyes of good scout to find that. A spreadsheet is only a database and is only as good as what is put in.

Does Sweeting actually do any proper scouting ?

This is the most idiotic take I’ve seen. He might not go to actual games himself as he’s too busy but do you really think we don’t have people actually in stands watching the players we’re interested in?


I can believe anything after last year's recruits.

Even if we couldn't get scouts out to games due to covid etc, highlights packages and videos are far easier to access now too. We won't just simply look at numbers and go 'yeah, they'll do'. There'll be a process.

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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
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DippyDon wrote:
RedOnRed wrote:
DippyDon wrote:
donmentor wrote:
Spreadsheets are wonderful things but they can't tell you how good a player is. It takes the eyes of good scout to find that. A spreadsheet is only a database and is only as good as what is put in.

Does Sweeting actually do any proper scouting ?

This is the most idiotic take I’ve seen. He might not go to actual games himself as he’s too busy but do you really think we don’t have people actually in stands watching the players we’re interested in?


I can believe anything after last year's recruits.

Even if we couldn't get scouts out to games due to covid etc, highlights packages and videos are far easier to access now too. We won't just simply look at numbers and go 'yeah, they'll do'. There'll be a process.


That is true. But watching the highlight videos of last years crop did not give us a clue how poorly some of them would performed for us.


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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
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Knowing GA from his playing days at Luton, this Norman chap's style is almost a clone of GA's style.
Also from a trivial point of view, is it just a coincidence that they both have christian style surnames ?
Yuo never know. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Cameron Norman signs
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donmentor wrote:
DippyDon wrote:
RedOnRed wrote:
DippyDon wrote:
donmentor wrote:
Spreadsheets are wonderful things but they can't tell you how good a player is. It takes the eyes of good scout to find that. A spreadsheet is only a database and is only as good as what is put in.

Does Sweeting actually do any proper scouting ?

This is the most idiotic take I’ve seen. He might not go to actual games himself as he’s too busy but do you really think we don’t have people actually in stands watching the players we’re interested in?


I can believe anything after last year's recruits.

Even if we couldn't get scouts out to games due to covid etc, highlights packages and videos are far easier to access now too. We won't just simply look at numbers and go 'yeah, they'll do'. There'll be a process.


That is true. But watching the highlight videos of last years crop did not give us a clue how poorly some of them would performed for us.


That is why you also look at data, as well as sending your scouts to watch them play.

A reminder to those that are still unable to process this. Recruitment is not handled by a single person at any pro football club, actually not even at semi-pro level. There are a whole team of people focused on this area, from scouts, manager, DoF, Sporting Director, analysts etc.

Sometimes recruitment goes really well (2021) sometimes it doesn't go so well (2022). That's football.


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