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Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:14 am

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Pseudonym wrote:

Digger wrote:

ReturnofMoo wrote:

Just to stick with the facts, the recruitment policy is in the link below, from 9 minutes 10 seconds. I wouldn't call for Pete to go now either, with the bands he's getting at the bowl and the associated income, he will be getting his mojo back soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WJtiub85rk

Cycling is making a full comeback too

https://www.velouk.net/2023/02/01/event ... it-series/

That also aligns with what Sweeting told the Supporters' Board on 12th December:

"However, it is worth being clear that no players are forced upon a Head
Coach, if they don’t feel we should sign them we won’t – it’s as simple as
that"

Point 1C on the minutes:

https://www.mkdons.com/siteassets/image/fans/supporters-board/meeting-minutes_supporters-board_mk-dons-dec-2022.pdf

Unless and until Manning (or anyone else who was close but independent) gives his side (he won't of course), I can't see how either of these sources can be given any credence whatsoever.
A case of the 'the winner shapes the narrative' IMO.

What should / normally does happen and what actually happened is opaque in this instance.

No, no, you've got it all wrong - it's all Mannings fault!

Sweeting signed some really good players, and he's got a list of 8 or 9 players that we beat clubs to that are much bigger in financial clout to us, and he doesn't share the view that it's going to be that much of a poor season...

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Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:56 pm

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None of this changes the fact Manning deserved to be sacked..

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Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:10 pm

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Pseudonym wrote:

Digger wrote:

ReturnofMoo wrote:

Unless and until Manning (or anyone else who was close but independent) gives his side (he won't of course), I can't see how either of these sources can be given any credence whatsoever. A case of the 'the winner shapes the narrative' IMO.

What should / normally does happen and what actually happened is opaque in this instance.

Manning was too green to say no but that to me was only a tiny amount of shit that he brought on himself. The change of formation three weeks in after buying all these players to fit HIS playing style. The lack of ownership on that point. The lack of training and how unfit the players are. Yes sweeting fucked up and deserves the critisim but imo players would not have signed for us in Jan if manning was still in charge. This is why he was sacked in middle of Dec I cant think of another reason why when we could have sacked him when we hit 24th at the end of october

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donmentor

Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:13 pm

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Alby39 wrote:

None of this changes the fact Manning deserved to be sacked..

Maybe, but he did not deserve to be the only one sacked.

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cornerdon26

Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:10 pm

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Pseudonym wrote:

Unless and until Manning (or anyone else who was close but independent) gives his side (he won't of course), I can't see how either of these sources can be given any credence whatsoever. A case of the 'the winner shapes the narrative' IMO.

What should / normally does happen and what actually happened is opaque in this instance.

Very much this. Like with most issues the complexity of what happened, just like with any transfer fee, we will probably never truly understand. But for me the reality is.

Winkelman probably didn't provide a big enough budget to cater for the gutting we had in the summer
Sweeting's targets didn't meet all the criteria we needed and probably played the money ball game too much
Manning's choice of tactics, style and training probably wasn't good enough
The players definitely have not been good enough.

So based on the call to just sack people if they do a bad job, shall we fire everyone? Let's get rid of Castore and the catering teams too.

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Alby39

Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:48 pm

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donmentor wrote:

Alby39 wrote:

None of this changes the fact Manning deserved to be sacked..

Maybe, but he did not deserve to be the only one sacked.

You can't sack everyone when things go slightly wrong. Sweeting has a lot to answer for but you can't sack him for one failure of a transfer window and destabilise the club potentially taking 5 or more years off any progress in doing so.

Coaches come and go.

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Locutus

Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:16 pm

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cornerdon26 wrote:

So based on the call to just sack people if they do a bad job, shall we fire everyone? Let's get rid of Castore and the catering teams too.

Exactly...

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ReturnofMoo

Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:52 pm

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Locutus wrote:

cornerdon26 wrote:

So based on the call to just sack people if they do a bad job, shall we fire everyone? Let's get rid of Castore and the catering teams too.

Exactly...

Definitely sack Castore. The catering team, it's a toss up.

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Alby39

Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:59 pm

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Look at what Bristol City have done when Hummel have let then down... Even Forest Green Rovers gave them the boot when they had issues mid season.

The fact we're giving Castore another year after this shit show shows the lack of discipline we have as a club.

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Aliramone

Post subject: Re: Sweeting has to go

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:07 pm

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Alby39 wrote:

Look at what Bristol City have done when Hummel have let then down... Even Forest Green Rovers gave them the boot when they had issues mid season.

The fact we're giving Castore another year after this shit show shows the lack of discipline we have as a club.

Chr*st. Really?
The shop is a joke. F- useless. I wonder how much revenue has been lost because they don't stock what people actually want.

Catering? I really liked those 'Piglet's Pantry' pies going back a few years. Different. Distinctive. Now Dead.....

The booze? I don't bother to go to The Cowshed Bar (or anywhere at SMK) now. :shock:

As has been said multiple times....it's slow, it's bland, it's often 'off' eg 'flat'/stale and it's hideously overpriced. Served with a 'Help ya'? tone of voice that suggests the desire to do precisely the opposite.

Fundamental change is required at all levels. I would not be surprised if there were many many people who don't renew STs next year even if we miraculously stay up. As Iggy sang: No Fun!. (Incidentally also the last song The Pistols ever performed live before splitting up in 1978.)

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