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Author:  SW4don [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

dons50 wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked.


More than you think.


Yep count me in

Author:  Nkdon [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked. It doesn't really matter now, what's done is done, but Karl Robinson is a far better manager than Neilson. What a bloody mess we are in!


I was also gutted when Karl was sacked, he was extremely loyal to the club even when he had offers from Championship clubs, and did more to move the club forward than anyone other than Pete, from speaking to him you could tell he genuinely loved the club and put everything into it. I think he was mostly a victim of lack of real Championship investment in the 15-16 season and bad recruitment 16-17. I don't think anyone could argue he's not a good Manager, he got us to the Championship and is doing extremely well at Charlton given all the circumstances there. I doubt many people thought he would do as well as he has.

Re. RN I couldn't really offer any convincing reason to keep him long term, to be fair to him he has changed tactics and is playing out from the back more rather than ultra-defensive hoofball but I still don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I think the time to get someone else in has passed now, it's clear Pete isn't going to sack him, even though the club is in a worse position than when KR got sacked. I want 'Neilson out' but am resigned to him not going, at least for a while.

Author:  Coddy [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

Nkdon wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked. It doesn't really matter now, what's done is done, but Karl Robinson is a far better manager than Neilson. What a bloody mess we are in!


I was also gutted when Karl was sacked, he was extremely loyal to the club even when he had offers from Championship clubs, and did more to move the club forward than anyone other than Pete, from speaking to him you could tell he genuinely loved the club and put everything into it. I think he was mostly a victim of lack of real Championship investment in the 15-16 season and bad recruitment 16-17. I don't think anyone could argue he's not a good Manager, he got us to the Championship and is doing extremely well at Charlton given all the circumstances there. I doubt many people thought he would do as well as he has.

Re. RN I couldn't really offer any convincing reason to keep him long term, to be fair to him he has changed tactics and is playing out from the back more rather than ultra-defensive hoofball but I still don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I think the time to get someone else in has passed now, it's clear Pete isn't going to sack him, even though the club is in a worse position than when KR got sacked. I want 'Neilson out' but am resigned to him not going, at least for a while.


You capture my thoughts!

Author:  Kempstondons6 [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

SW4don wrote:
dons50 wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked.


More than you think.


Yep count me in


The problem with these kind of comments is that it makes it sound like there’s only two options, RN or KR, there are other managers out there, you just have to be lucky enough to find them, three off the top of my head, Shrewsbury, Luton and Lincoln City.

Author:  ReturnofMoo [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

Coddy wrote:
Nkdon wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked. It doesn't really matter now, what's done is done, but Karl Robinson is a far better manager than Neilson. What a bloody mess we are in!


I was also gutted when Karl was sacked, he was extremely loyal to the club even when he had offers from Championship clubs, and did more to move the club forward than anyone other than Pete, from speaking to him you could tell he genuinely loved the club and put everything into it. I think he was mostly a victim of lack of real Championship investment in the 15-16 season and bad recruitment 16-17. I don't think anyone could argue he's not a good Manager, he got us to the Championship and is doing extremely well at Charlton given all the circumstances there. I doubt many people thought he would do as well as he has.

Re. RN I couldn't really offer any convincing reason to keep him long term, to be fair to him he has changed tactics and is playing out from the back more rather than ultra-defensive hoofball but I still don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I think the time to get someone else in has passed now, it's clear Pete isn't going to sack him, even though the club is in a worse position than when KR got sacked. I want 'Neilson out' but am resigned to him not going, at least for a while.


You capture my thoughts!


It's amazing how many people claimed they loved Robbo when he was here and wanted him to stay. I just remember Dons50.

Author:  dons50 [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

ReturnofMoo wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Nkdon wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked. It doesn't really matter now, what's done is done, but Karl Robinson is a far better manager than Neilson. What a bloody mess we are in!


I was also gutted when Karl was sacked, he was extremely loyal to the club even when he had offers from Championship clubs, and did more to move the club forward than anyone other than Pete, from speaking to him you could tell he genuinely loved the club and put everything into it. I think he was mostly a victim of lack of real Championship investment in the 15-16 season and bad recruitment 16-17. I don't think anyone could argue he's not a good Manager, he got us to the Championship and is doing extremely well at Charlton given all the circumstances there. I doubt many people thought he would do as well as he has.

Re. RN I couldn't really offer any convincing reason to keep him long term, to be fair to him he has changed tactics and is playing out from the back more rather than ultra-defensive hoofball but I still don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I think the time to get someone else in has passed now, it's clear Pete isn't going to sack him, even though the club is in a worse position than when KR got sacked. I want 'Neilson out' but am resigned to him not going, at least for a while.


You capture my thoughts!


It's amazing how many people claimed they loved Robbo when he was here and wanted him to stay. I just remember Dons50.


Top of my head, Brando and Camdenite.

Author:  Alby [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

dons50 wrote:
ReturnofMoo wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Nkdon wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked. It doesn't really matter now, what's done is done, but Karl Robinson is a far better manager than Neilson. What a bloody mess we are in!


I was also gutted when Karl was sacked, he was extremely loyal to the club even when he had offers from Championship clubs, and did more to move the club forward than anyone other than Pete, from speaking to him you could tell he genuinely loved the club and put everything into it. I think he was mostly a victim of lack of real Championship investment in the 15-16 season and bad recruitment 16-17. I don't think anyone could argue he's not a good Manager, he got us to the Championship and is doing extremely well at Charlton given all the circumstances there. I doubt many people thought he would do as well as he has.

Re. RN I couldn't really offer any convincing reason to keep him long term, to be fair to him he has changed tactics and is playing out from the back more rather than ultra-defensive hoofball but I still don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I think the time to get someone else in has passed now, it's clear Pete isn't going to sack him, even though the club is in a worse position than when KR got sacked. I want 'Neilson out' but am resigned to him not going, at least for a while.


You capture my thoughts!


It's amazing how many people claimed they loved Robbo when he was here and wanted him to stay. I just remember Dons50.


Top of my head, Brando and Camdenite.


Excuse me!? I had two bloody banners for that bloke and left the stadium early amidst the abuse he was getting at Southend because I couldn’t handle being amongst those criticising him.

Author:  ReturnofMoo [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

Alby wrote:
dons50 wrote:
ReturnofMoo wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Nkdon wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked. It doesn't really matter now, what's done is done, but Karl Robinson is a far better manager than Neilson. What a bloody mess we are in!


I was also gutted when Karl was sacked, he was extremely loyal to the club even when he had offers from Championship clubs, and did more to move the club forward than anyone other than Pete, from speaking to him you could tell he genuinely loved the club and put everything into it. I think he was mostly a victim of lack of real Championship investment in the 15-16 season and bad recruitment 16-17. I don't think anyone could argue he's not a good Manager, he got us to the Championship and is doing extremely well at Charlton given all the circumstances there. I doubt many people thought he would do as well as he has.

Re. RN I couldn't really offer any convincing reason to keep him long term, to be fair to him he has changed tactics and is playing out from the back more rather than ultra-defensive hoofball but I still don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I think the time to get someone else in has passed now, it's clear Pete isn't going to sack him, even though the club is in a worse position than when KR got sacked. I want 'Neilson out' but am resigned to him not going, at least for a while.


You capture my thoughts!


It's amazing how many people claimed they loved Robbo when he was here and wanted him to stay. I just remember Dons50.


Top of my head, Brando and Camdenite.


Excuse me!? I had two bloody banners for that bloke and left the stadium early amidst the abuse he was getting at Southend because I couldn’t handle being amongst those criticising him.


And Alby, of course that goes without saying. :D

Author:  dons50 [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

Alby wrote:
dons50 wrote:
ReturnofMoo wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Nkdon wrote:
Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked. It doesn't really matter now, what's done is done, but Karl Robinson is a far better manager than Neilson. What a bloody mess we are in!


I was also gutted when Karl was sacked, he was extremely loyal to the club even when he had offers from Championship clubs, and did more to move the club forward than anyone other than Pete, from speaking to him you could tell he genuinely loved the club and put everything into it. I think he was mostly a victim of lack of real Championship investment in the 15-16 season and bad recruitment 16-17. I don't think anyone could argue he's not a good Manager, he got us to the Championship and is doing extremely well at Charlton given all the circumstances there. I doubt many people thought he would do as well as he has.

Re. RN I couldn't really offer any convincing reason to keep him long term, to be fair to him he has changed tactics and is playing out from the back more rather than ultra-defensive hoofball but I still don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I think the time to get someone else in has passed now, it's clear Pete isn't going to sack him, even though the club is in a worse position than when KR got sacked. I want 'Neilson out' but am resigned to him not going, at least for a while.


You capture my thoughts!


It's amazing how many people claimed they loved Robbo when he was here and wanted him to stay. I just remember Dons50.


Top of my head, Brando and Camdenite.


Excuse me!? I had two bloody banners for that bloke and left the stadium early amidst the abuse he was getting at Southend because I couldn’t handle being amongst those criticising him.


True, sorry! :oops:

Author:  Gers [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A tough challenge for anyone on TCR

It was a, frankly, baffling decision to appoint Neilson, but Neilson is what we've got.

We'd be insane to sack him now. I'm slow coming' round to Brando's idea that we'll go down. Shit situation, but what can you do!

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