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ReturnofMoo
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:36 pm 
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No one who backs RN has answered my initial question with a serious answer - name ONE reason, convincing, why you feel RN should have more time.

If I could see a chick of light, I would be happy to give him more time - but I honestly can think of nothing. I certainly do not wish to go down to L2 (although it would be fun to play new clubs and see new grounds !) as it could take a while to get back up to L1 again....and surely we are an established L1 club ? That is our natural level, with a potential of being Championship.

I have a secondary question too - if RN survives and we stay up, even if by only just avoiding relegation by a whisker, would you want him out in the summer ? Surely no-one would argue he should have another season after this showing ?

See what I mean ? No glimmer of hope...so why not cut our losses now, get a man in who will keep us up, and kick on from there in August ?


So you asked the question but didn't get answers you wanted even though you wouldn't believe in them anyway. :lol: In regards to summer or even before ( a lot before) that is a different question and one Pete will have to consider seriously


Lol ! It is true I can genuinely see no reason, but I wanted a pro-RN person to convince me otherwise - as I may blindly be missing something. Almost giving RN a "chance" for someone to back him, lol !


Even if they was a Neilson fan and these seem few on the ground, I doubt anything they would say would convince you as you have made up your mind or to turn it around what could Robbie do to convince you to change your mind?


Fair question....I suppose the only thing that would change my mind is if the players themselves said there is a good team spirit building, in training etc - a "glimmer of hope" thing like that would at least be something promising.


That was easy. 41 seconds in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExqmbUUucbI

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Brando
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:42 pm 
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:46 pm 
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I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)

It was the right time for Robbo to go (especially the shock Winkelman got when he found out about Robinson's links to the Alli sale). Just a shame we got the greasy Jambo in exchange.

Still, it's all Yin and Yang.

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We didn’t sack him before the transfer window opened and if we sacked him now whoever comes in won’t have the time to build his own team, RN knows the players, knows the finances at the club and the restrictions and doesn’t look like a manager who has lost the plot (although not all like his way of playing he believes in it). Also the players still seem to be playing for him, the effort is there if not the quality so I say he got us into this mess, let him get us out of it

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:07 pm 
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keyser soze wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)

It was the right time for Robbo to go (especially the shock Winkelman got when he found out about Robinson's links to the Alli sale). Just a shame we got the greasy Jambo in exchange.

Still, it's all Yin and Yang.


This. Although had Robbo stayed we probably would be enjoying a League 2 promotion push right about now.

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I've had a few now :roll: :roll: but IMHO it's not a question of time or 'gelling together'; I simply do not believe that Robbie Neilson is a good manager. OK one can debate what 'good ' means but in simple terms ....let me direct you to the League Table.
The performance today was clueless.
I thought there was 'an MK Dons way/style'.
There is no way/style at the moment.
OK, if we go down we go down.
BUT RN is NEVER.... F- EVER going to be the person to get us up again.

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FilthyDon
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:26 pm 
Surely Pete must be thinking “This manager finished 12th last season, completely gutted the squad and brought in his own players over the summer and now we’re a point outside the relegation zone 6 months later — something isnt right”?

Or is this all part of the 3 year plan?

If not, surely Neilson has proven beyond doubt he has poor judgement of players and tactics if hes made his predecessors squad even worse and performing worse after a year?!

Im starting to doubt whether Pete is sane.
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Surely Pete must be thinking “This manager finished 12th last season, completely gutted the squad and brought in his own players over the summer and now we’re a point outside the relegation zone 6 months later — something isnt right”?

Or is this all part of the 3 year plan?

If not, surely Neilson has proven beyond doubt he has poor judgement of players and tactics if hes made his predecessors squad even worse and performing worse after a year?!

Im starting to doubt whether Pete is sane.


You must be crazy.

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Coddy
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Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked. It doesn't really matter now, what's done is done, but Karl Robinson is a far better manager than Neilson. What a bloody mess we are in!
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Coddy wrote:
Brando wrote:
I’m definitely not a pro-Neilson person, but I wouldn’t get rid now. The way I see it, if we get rid of him, it will cost us cash that could otherwise be spent to try and keep us up. Likely outcome - relegation. If we keep him and invest wisely, then I think the odds on us staying up are slightly better. Only slightly though - I can see nothing that suggests either the squad or the manager are capable of staying up.

(I’d be interested to see if Winkie still thinks getting rid of Robbo was the right decision - everything I can see suggests it was a bad move.)


I don't suppose many on here feel the same, but I was gutted when Robinson was sacked.


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