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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:27 am 
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Look, no way is Lewie suddenly going to become our new manager.

But he may well be in say 5 to 10 years time....

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Westcroftdon wrote:
I'd personally get Simon Grayson in if he was available.

He has a great track record of getting teams out of this division.

Grayson is available isn't he, after being sacked by Sunderland? However I'd be amazed if he chose to join us. He does have a great record at this level but that's helped by the fact that the teams he chooses to manage at this level were underachieving being in league one at that time: Blackpool (before their troubles), Leeds, Huddersfield and Preston, were all teams expecting to be in the championship at least at the time he was with them, and had a championship budget. After he got them promoted, he has usually struggled and been sacked when his teams in a league where they have no financial advantage. I don't think he'll drop down to a league one survival battle at a club with an average league one budget. Especially as all his managerial career so far has been spent in the North. It's unlikely he'll move South for the first time for us in our current situation.
That said, if we could get him, then I agree he could be a good appointment.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:46 am 
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BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
Westcroftdon wrote:
I'd personally get Simon Grayson in if he was available.

He has a great track record of getting teams out of this division.

Grayson is available isn't he, after being sacked by Sunderland? However I'd be amazed if he chose to join us. He does have a great record at this level but that's helped by the fact that the teams he chooses to manage at this level were underachieving being in league one at that time: Blackpool (before their troubles), Leeds, Huddersfield and Preston, were all teams expecting to be in the championship at least at the time he was with them, and had a championship budget. After he got them promoted, he has usually struggled and been sacked when his teams in a league where they have no financial advantage. I don't think he'll drop down to a league one survival battle at a club with an average league one budget. Especially as all his managerial career so far has been spent in the North. It's unlikely he'll move South for the first time for us in our current situation.
That said, if we could get him, then I agree he could be a good appointment.


As a Sunderland fan, if people are bemoaning RN's style of football - Grayson might just kill you all off with boredom. I know Sunderland is a car crash of a club, but he was abysmal.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:00 am 
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Just a thought, maybe we can save a bit of money, we don't sack Neilson, but we make Lewie the Director of Football and Neilson will report to him. Neilson throws a strop, and walks away, we then get another Manager and make Lewie his assistant


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:45 am 
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Whoever we appoint next will be a gamble but I want to enjoy what I see which is why Rubio looks appealing his team's certainly attack!

If you want a reason not to appoint Lewie he thinks he is the best left back at the club so clearly can't just a player :mrgreen:


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Dan Micciche has parted company with the FA.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:15 pm 
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MKAylesburyDon wrote:
Whoever we appoint next will be a gamble but I want to enjoy what I see which is why Rubio looks appealing his team's certainly attack!

If you want a reason not to appoint Lewie he thinks he is the best left back at the club so clearly can't judge a player :mrgreen:

All appointments may be gambles, but some gambles are bigger than others. There's no comparison between a tried and trusted manager, eg Simon Grayson, to a person with no senior management experience like Edu Rubio. He is a huge gamble. He is a good youth manager, and may prove a good senior manager; but there's a world of difference between a youth role and being first team manager: there's far more pressure as the results really matter at senior level, you make signings from around the country / world, juggle more games and competitions with a bigger squad to keep happy with the amount of games they're all getting, etc; have to deal with egos and agents; also deal with the fans and media. And the list goes on. It's a completely different job and success at youth level is no proof that a person will make a good manager. I really think in our position we can't take another gamble on a "young, ambitious guy." We need someone with proven competency at this level.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:23 pm 
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MKAylesburyDon wrote:
Whoever we appoint next will be a gamble but I want to enjoy what I see which is why Rubio looks appealing his team's certainly attack!

If you want a reason not to appoint Lewie he thinks he is the best left back at the club so clearly can't just a player :mrgreen:


It doesn't look like they know how to defend either.

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Barmy suggestion if ever there was one. Even having him play is questionable let alone putting the long term future of our club in his inexperienced hands.


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BertieWoostersDonsClub wrote:
MKAylesburyDon wrote:
Whoever we appoint next will be a gamble but I want to enjoy what I see which is why Rubio looks appealing his team's certainly attack!
All appointments may be gambles, but some gambles are bigger than others. There's no comparison between a tried and trusted manager, eg Simon Grayson, to a person with no senior management experience like Edu Rubio. He is a huge gamble. He is a good youth manager, and may prove a good senior manager; but there's a world of difference between a youth role and being first team manager: there's far more pressure as the results really matter at senior level, you make signings from around the country / world, juggle more games and competitions with a bigger squad to keep happy with the amount of games they're all getting, etc; have to deal with egos and agents; also deal with the fans and media. And the list goes on. It's a completely different job and success at youth level is no proof that a person will make a good manager. I really think in our position we can't take another gamble on a "young, ambitious guy." We need someone with proven competency at this level.

Ah, some common sense. Thank you Bertie.

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