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Russybcool wrote:

FilthyDon wrote:

Russybcool wrote:

I don't care anymore if we go down. I just want us to finish above KFC Kingston-upon-Thames.

I don't care if we go down, I just don't want Neilson in charge if we are in League Two.

What if we stay up? I want him gone either way. I just don't care anymore about moaning about it. Nothing will change. Even if we get a new manager. The root of the problem is far deeper than Neilson.

The root of what problem?

Russybcool wrote:

FilthyDon wrote:

Russybcool wrote:

I don't care anymore if we go down. I just want us to finish above KFC Kingston-upon-Thames.

I don't care if we go down, I just don't want Neilson in charge if we are in League Two.

The root of what problem?

dons50 wrote:

Russybcool wrote:

FilthyDon wrote:

Russybcool wrote:

I don't care anymore if we go down. I just want us to finish above KFC Kingston-upon-Thames.

I don't care if we go down, I just don't want Neilson in charge if we are in League Two.

The root of what problem?

The problem being we've a shit manager in charge, a blinkered board, and a team of absolutely shockingly bad players.

But that apart...

SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:

APMKDon wrote:

Anything less than 12 and we are in a relegation battle especially as 3 of those games are against teams below us.

11 points from our next 8 games would be comfortable mid-table form, while those really in the relegation battle will only average 9 points or fewer from their next 8 games...

Scunny A L
Rotherham A L
Plymouth H W
Peatboghorror H D
Oxford A L
KFC H W
Norfampton A D
Rotherham H W
would do it with 11 points from those games.

Given that we're 5 points above the relegation battle atm, to be dragged towards it we'd need to get 6 points or fewer while those really in it get 9 points or more over the next 8 games, imho.

One point better off than expected, after the Scunthorpe & Rotherham away games...

Two points worse off than expected after the first three games - not confident we'll even get 5 points from our next 5 games now, let alone 10 on current form...

Back on target after the first four games then - merely a small misalignment in the prediction sequence...

Same number of points as expected after the Oxford away game...

Two points worse off than expected after six games - not optimistic we'll get 6 points from our next 2 games on current form...

We will absolutely not get relegated this season. If we get relegated I will donate a kidney to play keepy uppy with in the car park.

Author:	Russybcool [ Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:47 pm ]
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dons50 wrote: Russybcool wrote: FilthyDon wrote: Russybcool wrote: I don't care anymore if we go down. I just want us to finish above KFC Kingston-upon-Thames. I don't care if we go down, I just don't want Neilson in charge if we are in League Two. What if we stay up? I want him gone either way. I just don't care anymore about moaning about it. Nothing will change. Even if we get a new manager. The root of the problem is far deeper than Neilson. The root of what problem? The problem of underachieving.

Author:	Gers [ Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:27 pm ]
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dons50 wrote: Russybcool wrote: FilthyDon wrote: Russybcool wrote: I don't care anymore if we go down. I just want us to finish above KFC Kingston-upon-Thames. I don't care if we go down, I just don't want Neilson in charge if we are in League Two. What if we stay up? I want him gone either way. I just don't care anymore about moaning about it. Nothing will change. Even if we get a new manager. The root of the problem is far deeper than Neilson. The root of what problem? The problem being we've a shit manager in charge, a blinkered board, and a team of absolutely shockingly bad players. But that apart...

Author:	Russybcool [ Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:32 pm ]
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Gers wrote: dons50 wrote: Russybcool wrote: FilthyDon wrote: Russybcool wrote: I don't care anymore if we go down. I just want us to finish above KFC Kingston-upon-Thames. I don't care if we go down, I just don't want Neilson in charge if we are in League Two. What if we stay up? I want him gone either way. I just don't care anymore about moaning about it. Nothing will change. Even if we get a new manager. The root of the problem is far deeper than Neilson. The root of what problem? The problem being we've a shit manager in charge, a blinkered board, and a team of absolutely shockingly bad players. But that apart... And no Koi Carp pond and Sensory Garden. That is the biggest crime of all.

Author:	APMKDon [ Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:05 pm ]
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Doesn't help when the most consistent players are getting splinters Team selection v Wobblers appear to be not working out after 45 mins

Author:	APMKDon [ Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:21 pm ]
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The thread began on 9/12/17. I suggested we needed 12 points from 8 games doesn't sound a lot does it. We have 5 from 7 that's 5 points from a possible 21. The only question I want to ask PW is Pete is that acceptable? If he were to answer No

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Author:	SG19 Cowshed Das Boot [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:41 pm ]
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SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote: SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote: SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote: SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote: SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote: SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote: APMKDon wrote: Anything less than 12 and we are in a relegation battle especially as 3 of those games are against teams below us. 11 points from our next 8 games would be comfortable mid-table form, while those really in the relegation battle will only average 9 points or fewer from their next 8 games... Scunny A L Rotherham A L Plymouth H W Peatboghorror H D Oxford A L KFC H W Norfampton A D Rotherham H W would do it with 11 points from those games. Given that we're 5 points above the relegation battle atm, to be dragged towards it we'd need to get 6 points or fewer while those really in it get 9 points or more over the next 8 games, imho. One point better off than expected, after the Scunthorpe & Rotherham away games... Two points worse off than expected after the first three games - not confident we'll even get 5 points from our next 5 games now, let alone 10 on current form... Back on target after the first four games then - merely a small misalignment in the prediction sequence... Same number of points as expected after the Oxford away game... Two points worse off than expected after six games - not optimistic we'll get 6 points from our next 2 games on current form... And we didn't. "11 points from our next 8 games would be comfortable mid-table form, while those really in the relegation battle will only average 9 points or fewer from their next 8 games... Given that we're 5 points above the relegation battle atm, to be dragged towards it we'd need to get 6 points or fewer while those really in it get 9 points or more over the next 8 games, imho." No points scored in our last two games, and just 5 points from our last 8 games overall while some of those already in the relegation battle scored 9 points or more (at our expense), means we have been dragged into the relegation battle. So we've crashed from playoffs form in the autumn, to relegation form this winter... Meanwhile, Plymouth & Gillingham have transformed their season with automatic promotion form to leap out of the relegation places up into the top half of the table , and we've slumped down into them. Two wins against Northampton & Walsall however, would've had seen us in 17th and 4 points clear of the relegation zone right now. Even just a win against Northampton would've kept us out of the relegation zone, and them still in it. That Northampton game was crucial, and Neilson was rightly sacked afterwards. Can Micciche do what Neilson did last season, and rescue us from the relegation battle we're now in? COYD!

Author:	APMKDon [ Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:52 pm ]
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When the topic commenced it was early December, not only did we win 1 yes ONE of those games in what was a freak result we have not won since. We have won 2 games since sorry its so long ago I cant recall. One of the teams in that fixture list was Plymouth Argyle who were below us and are now in the last play off position. There have been so many mistakes in the last 2 years that will result in relegation. There were so may people that thought in early December that relegation was out of the question but unfortunately no team is too good to go down and we are no different. I hope that PW is all ready planning for L2

Author:	APMKDon [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:57 am ]
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Unfortunately I predicted this on 7.12.17. Some agreed others were confident to suggest we would be ok. I know it's not certain we'll b I L2 next season but unless 4 wins come that's where we are heading. We were sinking like the titanic then and RN should have gone then. 4 weeks later was too long and it was too much to turn it around with all that was going on both off and on the pitch. We played Plymouth 19 days later they were below us now they in play off position. As greavsy said funny old game saint. I didn't invest in the 6/1 which were the odds on relegation at that time. There were clearly some that were glass half full now we all feel pretty empty

Author:	Kempstondons6 [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:07 pm ]
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Alby wrote: We will absolutely not get relegated this season. If we get relegated I will donate a kidney to play keepy uppy with in the car park. Are you having the kidney removed before the scunny game so we can have a kick about.

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Author:	SG19 Cowshed Das Boot [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:14 pm ]
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Here are the updated relevant stats. Over our last 8 league games (others played while we were still in the FA Cup), the current clubs outside the top 10, have secured the following number of points: 11. Plymouth: 21pts - were 22nd... (P10) = 2.10ppg 12. Gillingham: 20pts - were 21st... (P9) = 2.22ppg 13. Bristol R: 12pts - were 15th (P9) = 1.33ppg 14. Doncaster: 15pts - were 18th... (p10) = 1.5ppg 15. Southend: 9pts - were 12th (P9) = 1.0ppg 16. Walsall: 8pts - were 11th... (P9) = 0.88ppg 17. Fleetwood: 9pts - were 14th (p9) = 1.0ppg 18. Blackpool: 7pts - were 13th... (P9) = 0.77ppg 19. AFC: 14pts - were 20th... (p10) = 1.4ppg 20. Cobblers: 14pts - were 23rd... (P10) = 1.4ppg ----------------------------------------- 21. Oldham: 5pts - were 16th... (P10) = 0.5ppg 22. MK Dons: 5pts - were 17th (P8) = 0.63ppg 23. Rochdale: 5pts - were 19th... (P7) = 0.71ppg 24. Bury: 7pts - still 24th (P10) = 0.7ppg Southend have already received a bit of a boost from their new-manager. Time for us to do likewise. COYD!