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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:13 pm 
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I just wonder if our form is down to his ethos from running younger age groups - keep the ball, pass from the back, 6 passes out of your own half etc...

I have seen first hand that the Dons youth teams (U12 - 14 I have first hand knowledge) are more focused on play and style and the end result is not the most important factor its the key principles of how they want them to play

Just wonder if that ethos is then hard to turn into you MUST win - MUST NOT make mistakes and go get 3 points or else ?

Just a thought ???


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:35 pm 
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Junglecad wrote:
I just wonder if our form is down to his ethos from running younger age groups - keep the ball, pass from the back, 6 passes out of your own half etc...

I have seen first hand that the Dons youth teams (U12 - 14 I have first hand knowledge) are more focused on play and style and the end result is not the most important factor its the key principles of how they want them to play

Just wonder if that ethos is then hard to turn into you MUST win - MUST NOT make mistakes and go get 3 points or else ?

Just a thought ???

Very much so. Although it comes from within, the best don’t need anyone to say ‘or else’.

Getting stuck into the mental battle, playing close to the edge, dragging teammates along with them, getting in where it hurts, doing what it takes, that kind of thing. Someone who has experience of being like that and practiced it from a very young age can beat technically better players who haven’t.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:44 pm 
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Sausage wrote:
Junglecad wrote:
I just wonder if our form is down to his ethos from running younger age groups - keep the ball, pass from the back, 6 passes out of your own half etc...

I have seen first hand that the Dons youth teams (U12 - 14 I have first hand knowledge) are more focused on play and style and the end result is not the most important factor its the key principles of how they want them to play

Just wonder if that ethos is then hard to turn into you MUST win - MUST NOT make mistakes and go get 3 points or else ?

Just a thought ???

Very much so. Although it comes from within, the best don’t need anyone to say ‘or else’.

Getting stuck into the mental battle, playing close to the edge, dragging teammates along with them, getting in where it hurts, doing what it takes, that kind of thing. Someone who has experience of being like that and practiced it from a very young age can beat technically better players who haven’t.


Yes but can they pass sideways or backwards? ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:54 pm 
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Kempstondons6 wrote:
Sausage wrote:
Junglecad wrote:
I just wonder if our form is down to his ethos from running younger age groups - keep the ball, pass from the back, 6 passes out of your own half etc...

I have seen first hand that the Dons youth teams (U12 - 14 I have first hand knowledge) are more focused on play and style and the end result is not the most important factor its the key principles of how they want them to play

Just wonder if that ethos is then hard to turn into you MUST win - MUST NOT make mistakes and go get 3 points or else ?

Just a thought ???
Very much so. Although it comes from within, the best don’t need anyone to say ‘or else’.

Getting stuck into the mental battle, playing close to the edge, dragging teammates along with them, getting in where it hurts, doing what it takes, that kind of thing. Someone who has experience of being like that and practiced it from a very young age can beat technically better players who haven’t.
Yes but can they pass sideways or backwards? ;)

You got me. That’s where my argument crumbles to dust. :lol:

Actually, I don’t mind that sometimes if we are being pressed hard. It is sometimes the only option for a player with everything immediately in front of him blocked off.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:29 am 
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Location: .... In SG19 ..... APL Champion 2017/18 Betting Champion 2019/20 Power of 3 Champion 2017/18 + 19/20
Updated following DM's first win from nine, at home vs. Rotherham:

First nine games in charge of MK Dons:
Allen______P9 W5 D2* L2 F13 A8 GD+5 __ Win% 55.6 Loss% 22.2 *won one aet
Robinson___P9 W5 D2* L2 F15 A13 GD+2 _ Win% 55.6 Loss% 22.2 *won one aet
Ince (2)____P9 W5 D2 L2 F13 A11 GD+2 __ Win% 55.6 Loss% 22.2
Di Matteo__P9 W5 D0 L4 F13 A9 GD+4 ___ Win% 55.6 Loss% 44.4
Ince (1)____P9 W4 D3* L2 F21 A14 GD+7 _ Win% 44.4 Loss% 22.2 *won one on pens, lost one aet
Neilson____P9 W3 D2* L4 F13 A14 GD-1 __ Win% 33.3 Loss% 44.4 *won one aet
Wilson_____P9 W3 D2 L4 F11 A16 GD-5 __ Win% 33.3 Loss% 44.4
Murdoch___P9 W2 D2 L5 F11 A15 GD-4 __ Win% 22.2 Loss% 55.6
Micciche___P9 W1 D2 L6 F6 A11 GD-5 _ Win% 11.1 Loss% 66.6


And for historical perspective, here's their last nine games in charge of MK Dons:
Ince (1)____P9 W6 D3 L0 F17 A8 GD+7 __ Win% 66.7 Loss% 0.0 Left
Di Matteo__P9 W6 D2 L1 F10 A3 GD+7 __ Win% 66.7 Loss% 11.1 Left
Allen______P9 W4 D2 L3 F11 A8 GD+3 __ Win% 44.4 Loss% 33.3 Left
Wilson_____P9 W4 D1 L4 F10 A11 GD-1 _ Win% 44.4 Loss% 44.4 Sacked
Robinson___P9 W3 D2 L4 F12 A13 GD-1 _ Win% 33.3 Loss% 44.4 Sacked
Ince (2)____P9 W2 D4 L3 F9 A12 GD-3 __ Win% 22.2 Loss% 33.3 "Resigned" (Sacked)
Neilson____P9 W2 D3 L4 F8 A11 GD-3 __ Win% 22.2 Loss% 44.4 Sacked
Murdoch___P9 W1 D3 L5 F11 A16 GD-5 __ Win% 11.1 Loss% 55.6 Sacked
Micciche*__P9 W1 D2 L6 F6 A11 GD-5 _ Win% 11.1 Loss% 66.6 *So far...

Still the worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history, atm.

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07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:20 am 
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Location: .... In SG19 ..... APL Champion 2017/18 Betting Champion 2019/20 Power of 3 Champion 2017/18 + 19/20
Updated following DM's second win in ten, at home vs. Bury:

First ten games in charge of MK Dons:
Allen ------- P10 W6 D2* L2 F16 A10 GD+6 -- Win% 60 - Loss% 20 - *won one aet
Ince (2) ---- P10 W6 D2 L2 F14 A11 GD+3 --- Win% 60 - Loss% 20
Ince (1) ---- P10 W5 D3* L2 F22 A14 GD+8 -- Win% 50 - Loss% 20 - *won one on pens, lost one aet
Robinson -- P10 W5 D2* L3 F16 A16 GD 0 --- Win% 50 - Loss% 30 - *won one aet
Di Matteo - P10 W5 D0 L5 F14 A11 GD+3 ---- Win% 50 - Loss% 50
Neilson ---- P10 W4 D2* L4 F17 A14 GD+3 --- Win% 40 - Loss% 40 - *won one aet
Murdoch --- P10 W3 D2 L5 F12 A15 GD-3 ---- Win% 30 - Loss% 50
Wilson ----- P10 W3 D2 L5 F11 A17 GD-6 ---- Win% 30 - Loss% 50
Micciche -- P10 W2 D2 L6 F8 A12 GD-4 --- Win% 20 - Loss% 60


And for historical perspective, here's their last ten games in charge of MK Dons:
Ince (1) ---- P10 W6 D4 L0 F18 A9 GD+9 -- Win% 60 - Loss% 0 - Left
Di Matteo - P10 W6 D2 L2 F10 A5 GD+5 -- Win% 60 - Loss% 20 - Left
Allen ------- P10 W4 D3 L3 F12 A9 GD+3 -- Win% 40 - Loss% 30 - Left
Wilson ----- P10 W4 D1 L5 F10 A14 GD-4 - Win% 40 - Loss% 50 - Sacked
Robinson -- P10 W3 D3 L4 F13 A14 GD-1 - Win% 30 - Loss% 40 - Sacked
Ince (2) ---- P10 W2 D4 L4 F9 A13 GD-4 -- Win% 20 - Loss% 40 - "Resigned" (Sacked)
Murdoch --- P10 W2 D3 L5 F15 A18 GD-3 - Win% 20 - Loss% 50 - Sacked
Neilson ---- P10 W2 D3 L5 F8 A15 GD-7 --- Win% 20 - Loss% 50 - Sacked
Micciche -- P10 W2 D2 L6 F8 A12 GD-4 - Win% 20 - Loss% 60 - *So far...

Still the worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history, for now... ;)

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 am 
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Yes, but if you compare just the 9th and 10th games of any MK Dons managers, DM's got to be one of the best we've ever had.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:40 am 
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BristolDon wrote:
Yes, but if you compare just the 9th and 10th games of any MK Dons managers, DM's got to be one of the best we've ever had.

:lol: This

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:41 am 
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keyser soze wrote:
BristolDon wrote:
Yes, but if you compare just the 9th and 10th games of any MK Dons managers, DM's got to be one of the best we've ever had.

:lol: This
:lol:

You do the comparison then... :D

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:54 pm 
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I recall a lot of posts saying that we should have gone for Simon Grayson hes now at Bradford no wins in 4

Just saying

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