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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:23 am 
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Location: .... In SG19 ..... APL Champion 2017/18 Betting Champion 2019/20 Power of 3 Champion 2017/18 + 19/20
First four games in charge of MK Dons:
Murdoch P4 W0 D1 L3 F5 A9 GD-4
Gilligan (C) P4 W2 D0 L2 F3 A6 GD-3 (Caretaker)
Wilson P4 W1 D1 L2 F5 A7 GD-2
Allen P4 W3 D0 L1 F7 A4 GD+3
Ince (1) P4 W1 D2* L1 F10 A8 GD+2 *won once on pens
Di Matteo P4 W3 D0 L1 F5 A3 GD+2
Ince (2) P4 W1 D2 L1 F2 A4 GD-2
Robinson (C) P4 W0 D1 L3 F4 A9 GD-5 (Caretaker)
Robinson P4 W2 D1* L1 F9 A9 GD 0 *won after extra time
Barker (C) P4 W1 D1 L2 F6 A9 GD-3 (Caretaker)
Neilson P4 W1 D1* L2 F5 A6 GD-1 *won after extra time
Micciche P4 W0 D0 L4 F1 A5 GD-4

This isn't the worst squad of players we've ever had in our history...

And for historical perspective, here's their last four games in charge of MK Dons:
Murdoch P4 W0 D1 L3 F4 A10 GD-6 Sacked
Gilligan (C) P4 W2 D0 L2 F3 A6 GD-3 (Caretaker)
Wilson P4 W2 D1 L1 F5 A4 GD+1 Sacked
Allen P4 W2 D1 L1 F6 A3 GD+3 Left
Ince (1) P4 W2 D2 L0 F6 A4 GD+2 Left
Di Matteo P4 W2 D2 L0 F3 A1 GD+2 Left
Ince (2) P4 W0 D2 L2 F1 A3 GD-2 "Resigned" (Sacked)
Robinson (C) P4 W0 D1 L3 F4 A9 GD-5 (Caretaker)
Robinson P4 W0 D1 L3 F4 A9 GD-5 Sacked
Barker (C) P4 W1 D2 L1 F4 A4 GD 0 (Caretaker)
Neilson P4 W1 D1 L2 F3 A5 GD-2 Sacked
Micciche* P4 W0 D0 L4 F1 A5 GD-4 *so far...

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:32 am 
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I would not be surprised if DM failed to gain double figures in points between now and the end of the season.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:33 am 
If we were a Premier League club, Micciche's job would already be at risk. Lose another 2 or 3 in a row and he would almost certainly be sacked in that league.

We simply can't afford to do that. And it's a good thing, as he needs time.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:40 am 
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FilthyDon wrote:
If we were a Premier League club, Micciche's job would already be at risk. Lose another 2 or 3 in a row and he would almost certainly be sacked in that league.

We simply can't afford to do that. And it's a good thing, as he needs time.


Well, yes and no. Managers need time, but new manager syndrome is also felt, usually immediately after his appointment. When we're in serious risk of relegation if we don't get some points now, I think that it's reasonable to be considering getting someone - anyone - in, who could just improve our results on a short term basis and help us avoid relegation. The fact is, if we don't start seeing an upturn in results soon, we're relegated. I think it would be incorrect to say that no one could do a better job than DM (no points so far) therefore there has to get to a point where Winkelman weighs up the cost of getting another manager in with the potential lower league two revenues. He's going to have to make a decision sooner, rather than later because we're on course for our second relegation in three years.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:42 am 
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What makes things worse for Puppet Man Dan is that we're losing crucial games against the teams around us.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:42 am 
RobbieGiveUsAWave wrote:
FilthyDon wrote:
If we were a Premier League club, Micciche's job would already be at risk. Lose another 2 or 3 in a row and he would almost certainly be sacked in that league.

We simply can't afford to do that. And it's a good thing, as he needs time.


Well, yes and no. Managers need time, but new manager syndrome is also felt, usually immediately after his appointment. When we're in serious risk of relegation if we don't get some points now, I think that it's reasonable to be considering getting someone - anyone - in, who could just improve our results on a short term basis and help us avoid relegation. The fact is, if we don't start seeing an upturn in results soon, we're relegated. I think it would be incorrect to say that no one could do a better job than DM (no points so far) therefore there has to get to a point where Winkelman weighs up the cost of getting another manager in with the potential lower league two revenues. He's going to have to make a decision sooner, rather than later because we're on course for our second relegation in three years.


Yeah it's a bit odd that he has started so badly. Would have expected at least a point by now just through new manager effect/luck.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:56 am 
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I am not going to lay into DM. We are where we are purely because of RN.

When DM took over, most of us deep down felt we would still be relegated, and that come next season it would be a "clean slate" for DM, to stamp his authority on the team, and bring in players he wants in the summer.

I for one am happy to stand by this. Any talk of sacking DM before next season is sheer folly.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:10 am 
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Galverion wrote:
I am not going to lay into DM. We are where we are purely because of RN.

When DM took over, most of us deep down felt we would still be relegated, and that come next season it would be a "clean slate" for DM, to stamp his authority on the team, and bring in players he wants in the summer.

I for one am happy to stand by this. Any talk of sacking DM before next season is sheer folly.


We were one point away from safety when Dan was appointed. Why should we have accepted relegation?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:12 am 
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Don Direction wrote:
Galverion wrote:
I am not going to lay into DM. We are where we are purely because of RN.

When DM took over, most of us deep down felt we would still be relegated, and that come next season it would be a "clean slate" for DM, to stamp his authority on the team, and bring in players he wants in the summer.

I for one am happy to stand by this. Any talk of sacking DM before next season is sheer folly.


We were one point away from safety when Dan was appointed. Why should we have accepted relegation?


This!

Because he's a nobody who waves to the fans and has an MK postcode people seem to be happy to accrpt it.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:16 am 
RedDotDon wrote:
Don Direction wrote:
Galverion wrote:
I am not going to lay into DM. We are where we are purely because of RN.

When DM took over, most of us deep down felt we would still be relegated, and that come next season it would be a "clean slate" for DM, to stamp his authority on the team, and bring in players he wants in the summer.

I for one am happy to stand by this. Any talk of sacking DM before next season is sheer folly.


We were one point away from safety when Dan was appointed. Why should we have accepted relegation?


This!

Because he's a nobody who waves to the fans and has an MK postcode people seem to be happy to accrpt it.


But he has the best hair of any MK Dons manager to date, and that counts for something


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