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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:23 am 
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SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
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In his latest interview, DM said we are creating "probably more chances for our strikers than any team in L1."
This is worrying. I have been happy to see how it goes with DM and give him time...but to make comments like that does not bode well does it ?

Inexperienced manager says silly stuff in an interview - :roll:
Big deal.

Doesn't it niggle you a bit though, even a tiny bit, that such a statement is plain wrong ? Indicates something of his judgment ? I can take cliché phrases like "oh, we are putting in as much effort as we can, and hopefully our luck will change"...but to say we are creating as many chances, if not more, than clubs at the top of L1 is frankly laughable, and does not do much for credibility does it ?

Doesn't niggle me at all.

Nope, as long as we dominate possession, who cares about results or reality... ;)


It's nothing to do with results. This is about the manager's interviews. I genuinely am not bothered what he says in an interview. Most managers aren't very good at it - I wouldn't expect them to be.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:31 pm 
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Hyper, at the last count I think we had eight strikers. Now not all that of them are good strikers but they aren't all completely hopeless either. Both Agard and Sow have scored over 20 in a season before they came to us, Muirhead has a sweet left foot and Ugbo can't be totally rubbish. Aneke is a striker and has a modicum of ability.

I get your point of course. But they aren't helped by being played out of position as pseudo wide men or being left floundering all alone in the middle surrounded by defenders!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:56 pm 
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dons50 wrote:
SG19 Cowshed Das Boot wrote:
dons50 wrote:
Galverion wrote:
dons50 wrote:
Galverion wrote:
In his latest interview, DM said we are creating "probably more chances for our strikers than any team in L1."
This is worrying. I have been happy to see how it goes with DM and give him time...but to make comments like that does not bode well does it ?

Inexperienced manager says silly stuff in an interview - :roll:
Big deal.

Doesn't it niggle you a bit though, even a tiny bit, that such a statement is plain wrong ? Indicates something of his judgment ? I can take cliché phrases like "oh, we are putting in as much effort as we can, and hopefully our luck will change"...but to say we are creating as many chances, if not more, than clubs at the top of L1 is frankly laughable, and does not do much for credibility does it ?

Doesn't niggle me at all.

Nope, as long as we dominate possession, who cares about results or reality... ;)

It's nothing to do with results. This is about the manager's interviews. I genuinely am not bothered what he says in an interview. Most managers aren't very good at it - I wouldn't expect them to be.

This thread is about results - the worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history.
It's also about reality.

Our new manager comes out with detached-from-reality nonsense about us probably creating more chances than anyone else in League 1.
That's comparable in delusion to Robinson's ludicrous "Our performances have been excellent at home" following his latest defeat in our record-setting run of winless home league games stretching back for months.

Here's some reality.
In the three league games since DM took over, in reality, we only created enough chances to expect to score just 2.9 goals in total...
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Here's some more reality, which may be unpleasant for condescending disciples from the cult of "Plan A. There's no other way. The Holy numbers are sacred. Possession is paramount. It's for The Greater Good..."

In reality, Neilson's side created more chances in just one entertaining game away at Scunthorpe, than we have in all three defeats with just one chance taken under DM so far:
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But as long as we dominate possession, who cares about results or reality?
Another unnecessary & avoidable relegation? It's for The Greater Good....

The Greater Good...
The Greater Good...
The Greater Good...
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14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:24 pm 
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The worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history - update.

First five games in charge of MK Dons:
Allen______P5 W3 D1* L1 F8 A4 GD+4 *won aet
Robinson___P5 W3 D1* L1 F11 A10 GD+1 *won aet
Di Matteo__P5 W3 D0 L2 F6 A5 GD+1
Ince (2)____P5 W2 D2 L1 F4 A5 GD-1
Wilson_____P5 W2 D1 L2 F8 A8 GD 0
Ince (1)____P5 W1 D3* L1 F12 A11 GD+1 *won one on pens, lost one aet
Barker (C)__P5 W1 D2 L2 F6 A9 GD-3 (Caretaker)
Murdoch___P5 W1 D1 L3 F8 A9 GD-1
Neilson____P5 W1 D1* L3 F5 A7 GD-2 *won aet
Micciche___P5 W0 D0 L5 F2 A7 GD-5


And for historical perspective, here's their last five games in charge of MK Dons:
Allen______P5 W3 D1 L1 F8 A4 GD+4 Left
Wilson_____P5 W3 D1 L1 F6 A4 GD+2 Sacked
Ince (1)____P5 W2 D3 L0 F8 A6 GD+2 Left
Di Matteo__P5 W2 D2 L1 F3 A2 GD+1 Left
Neilson____P5 W2 D1 L2 F4 A5 GD-1 Sacked
Barker (C)__P5 W1 D2 L2 F5 A8 GD-3 (Caretaker)
Robinson___P5 W1 D1 L3 F5 A9 GD-4 Sacked
Ince (2)____P5 W0 D3 L2 F3 A5 GD-2 "Resigned" (Sacked)
Murdoch___P5 W0 D1 L4 F6 A13 GD-7 Sacked
Micciche*__P5 W0 D0 L5 F2 A7 GD-5 *so far...

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:54 am 
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The worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history - updated after DM's first point, away at Rochdale.

First six games in charge of MK Dons:
Allen______P6 W4 D1* L1 F9 A4 GD+5 *won aet
Robinson___P6 W4 D1* L1 F12 A10 GD+2 *won aet
Ince (2)____P6 W3 D2 L1 F6 A6 GD 0
Di Matteo__P6 W3 D0 L3 F7 A7 GD 0
Wilson_____P6 W2 D2 L2 F9 A9 GD 0
Neilson____P6 W2 D1* L3 F8 A9 GD-1 *won aet
Ince (1)____P6 W1 D3* L2 F14 A14 GD 0 *won one on pens, lost one aet
Barker (C)__P6 W1 D2 L3 F8 A12 GD-4 (Caretaker)
Murdoch___P6 W1 D1 L4 F8 A12 GD-4
Micciche___P6 W0 D1 L5 F2 A7 GD-5


And for historical perspective, here's their last six games in charge of MK Dons:
Allen______P6 W4 D1 L1 F9 A4 GD+5 Left
Wilson_____P6 W4 D1 L1 F8 A5 GD+3 Sacked
Ince (1)____P6 W3 D3 L0 F12 A7 GD+5 Left
Di Matteo__P6 W3 D2 L1 F4 A2 GD+2 Left
Barker (C)__P6 W2 D2 L2 F8 A10 GD-2 (Caretaker)
Robinson___P6 W2 D1 L3 F7 A9 GD-2 Sacked
Neilson____P6 W2 D1 L3 F4 A6 GD-2 Sacked
Ince (2)____P6 W0 D3 L3 F3 A8 GD-5 "Resigned" (Sacked)
Murdoch___P6 W0 D2 L4 F6 A13 GD-7 Sacked
Micciche*__P6 W0 D1 L5 F2 A7 GD-5 *so far...

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:11 pm 
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The worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history, continues.

Updated following DM's second point, away at Fleetwood:

First seven games in charge of MK Dons:
Allen______P7 W5 D1* L1 F12 A6 GD+6 *won aet
Ince (2)____P7 W4 D2 L1 F9 A7 GD+2
Robinson___P7 W4 D1* L2 F12 A12 GD 0 *won aet
Di Matteo__P7 W4 D0 L3 F10 A7 GD+3
Ince (1)____P7 W2 D3* L2 F17 A14 GD+3 *won one on pens, lost one aet
Neilson____P7 W2 D2* L3 F8 A9 GD-1 *won one aet
Barker (C)__P7 W2 D2 L3 F10 A13 GD-3 (Caretaker)
Wilson_____P7 W2 D2 L3 F9 A14 GD -5
Murdoch___P7 W2 D1 L4 F9 A12 GD-3
Micciche___P7 W0 D2 L5 F3 A8 GD-5


And for historical perspective, here's their last seven games in charge of MK Dons:
Ince (1)____P7 W4 D3 L0 F14 A8 GD+6 Left
Di Matteo__P7 W4 D2 L1 F6 A3 GD+3 Left
Allen______P7 W4 D1 L2 F10 A6 GD+4 Left
Wilson_____P7 W4 D1 L2 F9 A8 GD+1 Sacked
Barker (C)__P7 W2 D3 L2 F8 A10 GD-2 (Caretaker)
Neilson____P7 W2 D1 L4 F5 A8 GD-3 Sacked
Robinson___P7 W2 D1 L4 F8 A12 GD-5 Sacked
Ince (2)____P7 W0 D4 L3 F6 A11 GD-5 "Resigned" (Sacked)
Micciche*__P7 W0 D2 L5 F3 A8 GD-5 *so far...
Murdoch___P7 W0 D2 L5 F7 A15 GD-8 Sacked

On a positive note then, DM's first seven games in charge, were slightly better on goal difference than one of our five ex-manager's final seven games in charge of MK Dons before they got the sack. :)
SM's relegation-scrap selections did manage to score more than twice as many goals as DM's selections have so far, though.

Anyway, don't miss next week's exciting instalment, when we find out how Saturday's must-win home league game against Bristol Rovers affects what remains by far, the worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history... :)

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:26 pm 
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Points-collecting-wise, Don’s graph is on an upward curve.
Could Bristol Rovers furnish him with his first win?
He’d still be bottom of the first eight games roster, but not as far behind.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:05 am 
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By far the worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history, gets worse...

Updated following DM's sixth defeat from eight, at home vs. Bristol Rovers:

First eight games in charge of MK Dons:
Allen______P8 W5 D2* L1 F12 A6 GD+6 *won one aet
Robinson___P8 W5 D1* L2 F14 A12 GD+2 *won aet
Ince (2)____P8 W4 D2 L2 F11 A10 GD+1
Di Matteo__P8 W4 D0 L4 F10 A9 GD+1
Ince (1)____P8 W3 D3* L2 F20 A14 GD+6 *won one on pens, lost one aet
Barker (C)__P8 W2 D3 L3 F10 A13 GD-3 (Caretaker)
Murdoch___P8 W2 D2 L4 F11 A14 GD-3
Neilson____P8 W2 D2* L4 F8 A11 GD-3 *won one aet
Wilson_____P8 W2 D2 L4 F9 A16 GD-7
Micciche___P8 W0 D2 L6 F3 A9 GD-6


And for historical perspective, here's their last eight games in charge of MK Dons:
Ince (1)____P8 W5 D3 L0 F16 A8 GD+6 Left
Di Matteo__P8 W5 D2 L1 F8 A3 GD+5 Left
Allen______P8 W4 D1 L3 F11 A8 GD+3 Left
Wilson_____P8 W4 D1 L3 F10 A10 GD 0 Sacked
Robinson___P8 W3 D1 L4 F12 A13 GD-1 Sacked
Barker (C)__P8 W2 D3 L3 F10 A13 GD-3 (Caretaker)
Neilson____P8 W2 D2 L4 F7 A10 GD-3 Sacked
Ince (2)____P8 W1 D4 L3 F8 A12 GD-4 "Resigned" (Sacked)
Murdoch___P8 W0 D3 L5 F8 A16 GD-8 Sacked
Micciche*__P8 W0 D2 L6 F3 A9 GD-6 *So far...


So DM's first eight games in charge were even worse than all five of our five ex-manager's final eight games in charge of MK Dons before they got the sack. Even SM's relegation-bound selections scored nearly three times as many goals as DM's selections have so far...

Anyway, don't miss next week's exciting instalment, when we find out how Saturday's must-win away league game against Bradford affects what still remains by far the worst ever start by any MK Dons manager in our history... :)

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P46_ _W _D _L PTS
07/08 29 10 _7 97 PI 1st
14/15 27 10 _9 91 KR 2nd
21/22 26 11 _9 89 LM 3rd

05/06 12 14 20 50 DW 22nd R
22/23 11 12 23 45 lm/MJ 21st R
17/18 11 12 23 45 rn/DM 23rd R
15/16 _9 12 25 39 KR 23rd R

LS: A rocky start, that's all it is.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:28 am 
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I was surprised by DanM’s quote yesterday, something like, he is still learning that he is judged on points, rather than good work on the training field.


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You bally chavs probably live in a betting shop. Literally under a blanket in the corner in-between bets. For the first time I've looked at the odds Bradford v MKD. Away win, are the turf accountants offering any odds, or is it classed as a non-runner...

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