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There is some academic-type research that suggests the "new manager boost" is actually a myth - it is simply a team on a very bad run of form sacking their manager and then post- sacking returning back to their 'norm' which includes winning games. I think I posted a link on one such research piece a few weeks ago, but if not I'll dig it out if it is of interest?

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Link is on the start of this thread :-

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The problem is, as was said at the beginning, we haven't really got time to 'give the guy a break'. To appoint someone with no club managerial experience was a risky move under the circumstances. I have seen nothing to suggest that this is going to work, I'm afraid. I very much hope that I'm wrong but I think relegation is a distinct possibility and that is very disturbing. I just don't see the improvement that other people maintain is happening. One goal and three losses in three games just ain't going to cut it. Trying to play Robbo style doesn't seem to put the ball in the back of the net and we can't afford to be self indulgent about this. We have a squad full of forwards and only play one central striker. That makes no sense!

Why do people keep talking about 'Robbo style' ? What we are playing now ain't nothing like that.

We are now actually spending more time in the opponents half, at last.

Yes we have. We're not going to go bust anytime soon. We've got time.

He’s had three games so far, to turn an ugly soulless team into something more exciting and tactical.
This is not going to happen immediately, there is a huge improvement already, we are actually attacking, creating chances and shooting more.

The wins will come, it’s a longer term project with Dan at the helm, nobody wants relegation and hopefully we can stay up playing football with a bit of style, if we don’t we don’t, but under Neilson we were doomed anyway

If we had appointed Grayson or Earburton, one who didn’t want the job and the other who is an absolute fraud of a manager and an absolute prick too, and we had the exact same results we’d be moaning we were still losin and may as well have kept Neilson and that the style was still shit, etc.

I think we were always in danger of going down and no manager guarantees safety. This appointment goes way beyond the 4/5 months Dan has. Working with players that aren’t his, who have been shot to pieces all season.
This is a long term one. If we get relegated I’m sure Dan gets 20% of the blame whilst Neilson gets 80%, but Dan, who has given us more encouraging signs than Neilson ever did this season, will get a go from League Two or whatever next season and we go again. If he struggles to hit the ground running and we aren’t doing enough in the first few months of that season he may well leave. But he’s three games in. We may win our next five. You can’t expect a side in shit form to just change dramatically, style and results. Results come with confidence and a better style helps bring that.

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But the major job which he has to do is to ensure our survival in League One. That's more important at the moment than changing to 'beautiful football'. And if we have to play ugly to survive, then so be it! I just don't have the same faith that the wins are bound to come. Why exactly do people believe this as some sort of article of faith?

I fail to see why an inexperienced manager who makes bizarre substitutions is going to be the start of something wonderful! Playing Robbo football isn't a panacea. If it had been, Robinson wouldn't have had to be sacked, would he?

I see nothing encouraging in a manager who contrives to lose to a League Two side at home, sees his team score one goal in three games and loses the lot! This seems to me to be simple wishful thinking.

you are so wrong on so many levels, a bit like a multi storey car park

You may not have noticed but we’ve been “playing ugly” for over a year. It hasn’t worked.