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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 8:25 am 
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AlexDon123 wrote:
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Brentford are about to be bought in next few days. Attractive investment as current investors have played it well to get to where they are. We need to find a way to successfully complete that initial phase.


If that's our aim then we'd need to make ourselves sellable which means looking forwards not back. Not sure that being hated for no good reason is very attractive to potential investors.


I though this the other day. Not just about who does or doesn't buy us, but the players as well. Do they really buy into what us fans and to a lesser extent the club are selling. We are a franchise. One of the most hated clubs in English football, face it we are. Now whilst that doesn't bother us, does it bother the players? I can't imagine they are sold a dream when they are training on a school field and look at how much the club has fallen. They must all have opinions. They may get a lot of stick from their friends for being players of us and maybe they just see us as a stepping stone to bigger things. There must be a reason why we were destroyed by Crawley. I am hoping our biggest signing this summer is a sports psychologist as we desperately need one as there is something not right with their mindset when it comes to the crunch and really it is like fuck it they don't care (not my view, but do they really when they are shipping 5 goals against a team who finished 8 points less than us). I don't believe it is down to ability and tactics (though that is a factor). I have just been scratching my head as to how we were so abused in two games and why we continue to fail in the play offs with obviously different squads.


But hated for mostly made up stuff, for an outragous FA decision not of our making and we were never asked.


also added onto the fact that it’s normally just the people who live in the online bubble who hate us, i live in aylesbury and i don’t know a single person who actually truly hates us, all the old blokes at work who lived well before wimbledon FC was moved always tell me “i actually like you guys and wish you’d do well”, my dad who used to go to wycombe games as a teen when they played leatherhead every other week now prefers us over wycombe. it’s just the cretins who spend every waking minute thinking about how they can use our name to get clicks and likes on twitter/X that make up the loud minority of hating us.

Also proves it when nearly every manager in their interviews before they play us rave about how much of a fantastic club we are, and that most players nowadays aren’t even old enough to remember the move, so i don’t really think that players are put off signing with us by the stigma around the club whatsoever


Pretty much this. Much of the hate is performative and comes in the context of fans being cynical at football's wider authorities. See the "overseas domestic games" - nearly everyone in the UK hates that idea, as it's born out of sheer greed. Our club being born out of a desire to support a property investment is seen in the same evil, although many clubs in the league have dubious or cynical origin stories themselves; they're just forgotten as it's so long ago. And as for earning a league place, many legacy clubs first got their place in the pyramid by election as was the order of the day, not my merit/promotion.

It's usually forgotten that even most MK Dons fans would probably oppose another MK Dons-style relocation of any other club. Imagine Barrow were going to go under and they proposed relocating to suburban Manchester or something. Would anyone support that, really? It's hard to see any support for "franchised football" at all, anywhere, yet the performative bashing for twitter likes still comes. It's boring and just tilting against windmills. MK Dons is an accident of history - like plenty of other football clubs (Someone tell that ladybit John Green who sugar daddies AFC that his "first" club, Liverpool, was formed out of a cynical desire for Orange Order member John Houlding to sell alcohol to working class people?). It's all pathetic and sad really and better off ignored.

Nearly all ex players say they enjoyed their time at MK Dons and spoke highly of Winkelman. The city is a nice place to live, especially for peak-career professionals with a few quid and a young family. We're still an attractive prospect for players.

We do need a sports psychologist though. Either that or a change in leadership. I know which one is more likely.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 12:11 pm 
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Chesterfield have now signed Paddy Madden and Tim Akinola, two pretty big/good signings in this league , and doncaster have already done their retained list and were pretty ruthless with it releasing some fan’s favourites with mccann calling out players who weren’t prepared to work hard.

meanwhile we’re yet to send out our retained list and ended the season with “we’ll be happy to go again next season i’ll make sure the players are nice and happy on their holidays”, ambition currently being shone in other places while a dim flickering light still hangs over our head


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 12:48 pm 
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AlexDon123 wrote:
Chesterfield have now signed Paddy Madden and Tim Akinola, two pretty big/good signings in this league , and doncaster have already done their retained list and were pretty ruthless with it releasing some fan’s favourites with mccann calling out players who weren’t prepared to work hard.

meanwhile we’re yet to send out our retained list and ended the season with “we’ll be happy to go again next season i’ll make sure the players are nice and happy on their holidays”, ambition currently being shone in other places while a dim flickering light still hangs over our head


What is the rush to get a retained list out?

I'm sure it'll be done by the end of the week.


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AlexDon123 wrote:
Chesterfield have now signed Paddy Madden and Tim Akinola, two pretty big/good signings in this league , and doncaster have already done their retained list and were pretty ruthless with it releasing some fan’s favourites with mccann calling out players who weren’t prepared to work hard.

meanwhile we’re yet to send out our retained list and ended the season with “we’ll be happy to go again next season i’ll make sure the players are nice and happy on their holidays”, ambition currently being shone in other places while a dim flickering light still hangs over our head


Have a bit of patience. Our season only ended a few days ago and we weren't planning on it ending until this weekend. Conversations and decisions will be being made internally as we speak. Just because we've not seen the retained list publicly doesn't meant they're not working on things. There's plenty of time over the summer for this rebuild, there's no need to rush things.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 12:59 pm 
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AlexDon123 wrote:
Chesterfield have now signed Paddy Madden and Tim Akinola, two pretty big/good signings in this league , and doncaster have already done their retained list and were pretty ruthless with it releasing some fan’s favourites with mccann calling out players who weren’t prepared to work hard...

I know Chesterfield were a big team for the NL, but Paddy Madden's a really good signing for a newly promoted club from the non-league. Over 20 goals last season for the league 2 champions and was offered a new deal by them. That's the kind of signing that, had Wrexham made it last season, people would be saying no other newly promoted non-league club would have the financial clout to do that!

I'd have been happy enough with selling Max Dean for a good fee and a sell on clause and bringing in Madden on a free as a guaranteed goals replacement.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:11 pm 
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AlexDon123 wrote:
Chesterfield have now signed Paddy Madden and Tim Akinola, two pretty big/good signings in this league , and doncaster have already done their retained list and were pretty ruthless with it releasing some fan’s favourites with mccann calling out players who weren’t prepared to work hard.

meanwhile we’re yet to send out our retained list and ended the season with “we’ll be happy to go again next season i’ll make sure the players are nice and happy on their holidays”, ambition currently being shone in other places while a dim flickering light still hangs over our head


It won't take long to write down the names of about 7 seniors and the same amount of kids. I mean we don't even know if our gaffer is going to still be here next week.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 4:44 pm 
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Paddy Madden is a great player at 34 for league 2, there's no reason Harrison aged 30 cant score at least 18 if he gets more game time, don't think he will want or can afford to be sitting around on the bench next season..


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 5:22 pm 
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Max Dean banned for 3 games so that will either be someone else's problem or could be good news for us


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 7:09 pm 
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Paddy Madden is a great player at 34 for league 2, there's no reason Harrison aged 30 cant score at least 18 if he gets more game time, don't think he will want or can afford to be sitting around on the bench next season..


Harrison isn't a starter.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 8:41 pm 
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What about Dinanga at Gateshead, what's are relationship like with Norwich these Days Archie Mair 6ft 6 goalkeeper could be an option, thought he looked decent when he played against us for Morecambe this season another player MW knows well...


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