Speaking as an outsider (what do you think of the human race) I think that the problem with games like last night is the quality of the opposition, and quite frankly the sheer amount of international games this season.

The season no longer started than there was a break. Restart, stop again. It's difficult for international players to get 'up' for England duties in my opinion when their minds are still on domestic games.

And the quality of the qualifying teams England have to face! It's a joke. It's little wonder that players like those mentioned above seem disinterested. The glamour of Slovenia in a less than enthusiastic Wembley!

The Scotland game on the other hand was genuinely exciting. And who'd have thought that such a thing was possible! Tkhe underdog mentality I suppose. The Jockasauris hit the bar two or three times, and but for a world class display from the Slovakia keeper, could have been out of sight well before the final whistle. Slovakia had a man sent off for a blatant dive, leading to a second yellow. And best of all, Scott Brown didn't play.

If it weren't for the involvement of so many Celtic 'legends' it would've been a good evening.

I think you are being way to kind to them, a bunch of overpaid, overrated dross that wouldn't be allowed to tie the boot laces of the Germans or French. As for Southgate, like someone else mentioned, he's nice, he says the right things but will he win us anything or restore pride? Not in a million years but that doesn't matter to the F.A. So long as he is nice. I used to be in the England supporters club and go to a lot of games, I can now hardly bare to watch it on TV. Absolute rubbish!!!!

Utter, utter toilet.

Rashford and Kane (who hardly got a touch before the goal) are quality. Stones might be OK over time. Most of the rest are bang average at best. Henderson should never get another game. Stirling is great when accompanied by £400,000,000,000,000 worth of talent. Put him in an England top and he is... meh. Wenger finally saw through the Ox and let him go join Liverpool reserves.

Christ, I wish I wasn't an England fan. I don't have a choice - but it's bloody painful.

I wish they'd choose a winner as a manager. But the FA want 'nice'. A nice guy, who'll say nice things in the media. Nice. SAF isn't nice. Nor was Clough. Pep and Jose aren't nice. They all have their charms, but they're not 'nice'. They are/were winners.

Tonight has knocked me off the wagon - for that, at least, I'm grateful.

That's the best we've got mate.

There aren't many England 'stars' playing in the top division these days. Big clubs stockpile the better English players in the reserves to meet quotas, and bench many of the rest in favour of Carlos Kickaball. If you aren't playing much first-team football, how can you expect to be a decent international? Rodwell-Delph syndrome. That's the Premiership 'product' for you.

England seem to be sticking with this 4-2-3-1 'DNA'. Last night the 4 aren't bad as long as Cahill is there to organize them, but the 2 have no invention, the 3 usually comprises benchees and reserves, and the 1 is isolated. On top of that, 4-2-3-1 has been around a long time and there are no surprises for opposition.